Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem - Lemmy.World
Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem - Lemmy.World
I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy’s massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml]. It’s been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let’s say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, t...
Everything I hate is now tankie. We must stop this by getting them to censor what we think is tankie
Those are all Rule 1 violations, which reads, "No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia." (and includes a link up the code of conduct).
These babies are repeating infantilizing orientalist memes and are surprised when the rules are applied to them, lol. Some of them probably don't even realize it because they're so used to playing pretend about the see see pee and the oppressed Chinese people in their imaginations that they actually think they are stating facts.
Deeply unserious people.
PS remember when lemmy.world preemptively defederated from hexbear (in the justification they say defend is "as a last resort" lol)?
I’ve been banned from .ml for being a ‘racist’ for being anti-Xi, despite the fact that I am Chinese, and pointed out my ethnicity as such in the discussion. I guess antisemitic Jews aren’t the only weird accusation getting thrown about nowadays.
Lol, oh no. The poster immediately under this is going on some long winded rant that Japan should have been nuked harder, it was the only way to save more people
and also
Lemmy.ml is a cancer on the Fediverse. If we want it to survive, we need to cut it off.
Prime specimen of someone who needs to touch grass, the userbase at lemmy.ml is trash, but not for why they think
I looked up the OP in the modlog and saw:
reason: 
Nice to see our mods aren't the only ones with a sense of humor
Damn I wish it worked shut the fuck up
Holy shit the lack of self awareness.
LemmyWorld did this EXACT thing to absolutely everyone posting a view left of the US State Dept. It's what got Hexbear defederated, it's what got me banned despite the fact I broke NO rules besides supporting Lenin/USSR and posting about those things.
They are ridiculous. They do this exact thing to everyone to their left and then they can't fucking take it if anyone else does it to them. Even when in this case it's just literally cracking down on the mindless misinformation and bullshit libs peddle about this event.
When they unban lenins2ndcat so I can go back to the massive amount of effective posting I was doing on their instance then they can start whining about censorship elsewhere. They do it themselves if a communist is effective enough to get upvotes there. There were a dozen subreddits ready to migrate too and they killed that shit stonedead and put the brakes on the entire movement to swap from reddit to lemmy with their bullshit. Literally everyone saw what lemmyworld was doing and said nahhhh fuck that in the backrooms at the peak of everyone being motivated to move.
They're used to being able to silence anyone to their left. Turns out they can't take what they were dishing out.
The supporting evidence is a cable from a British guy who heard all these terrible things from a random source. I wonder why that source's account differs from all the other contemporary reports of that day
A lot of the dead bodies in those pictures are specifically labeled PLA soldiers too
Idiots
People are naive if they think the .ml admins and devs don’t intend to keep their thumb on the Lemmy scale. More instances need to take this threat seriously and defederate from .ml, and possibly even fork the Lemmy repos for when the devs inevitably decide they want to start building quiet exploits into the code. There are serious cyber security implications here that people are sleeping on
Honestly unhinged.
That’s the most frustrating part. These “leftists” are the stupid kind who seem to care more about relitigating idiotic cold war drama than evolving or pushing forward leftist philosophy. It’s straight up brain rot, mixed with obvious right wing agitprop disguised as leftist ideology.
What cold war drama? What right wing agitprop?
A hexbear in that thread is literally claiming that “the soldiers did everything they could to avoid hurting him” when there’s a photo of him lying dead on the street after the tanks have gone through. They don’t think it’s fine, they’re saying it didn’t happen (curious) [47]
Doesn't post the proof, unfortunately. Fortunately, a bunch of other people are correcting them.
The threat is bigger than that though. These people control the code base and can easily just start running modified code to fuck with various aspects of federation to generally keep their finger on the scale of any instance which federates with them. At best they have shown they have no shame and cannot be trusted. If there is any means of abusing their power, it must be assumed that they will embrace it.
Again literally no evidence that .ml has abused the federation algorithm or whatever.
You know, this makes me sad and I can't really nail down why. I think it's because their ignorance is so pointless. I want .ml to maintain its current position because it's the closest thing we have to a place where we can talk with them. I feel like, for many of them, their current position on what "tankies" (Marxists) are and what they think is holding on by the skin of its teeth, reliant completely on enculturation because it's wildly out of step with what the vast, vast majority of Marxists on any instance actually say.
I hope some of them come to understand and accept how they've been lied to.
i posted a decently sourced comment in the thread and had 16 downvotes from cowards too scared to comment
is this the tankie censorship that the libs constantly whine about?
i am very glad we got rid of that shit on
Literally only worldnews is properly moderated out of major communities on .ml, communities like memes are full of turbolibs. The cause of this malding is that they went way too fucking far even for usually hands off Dessalines in their latest Tiananmen post on memes and he removed some more orientalist posts and closed the thread.
The anti communist orthodoxy strikes again. If we let libs do whatever they want, it’s because we’re weak and cannot stand against their “ideological superiority”. If we engage with them and promptly ban them when they’re racist, it’s because we’re authoritarian and love censorship.
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Oh wow, a lib is bothering to defend tankies and call out the times they've been "censored" on other instances?
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every one of those posters need to get rolled up in the dirtiest rugs you can find then get beaten until the rugs are clean.
wants to remove anyone left of Hitler while complaining about Tankies removing racists and bad faith actors
Ah, liberals, they never change
lemmy.world is a joke instance. They do not address bigotry properly and are so boot-lickers for big companies that they blocked !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com . Any serious user should've close their account there the moment that happened.
WARNING: graphical content
https://lemmy.world/post/16233963
And cue the flood of defed spam
The reason I ended up on lemmygrad/hexbear is because I saw folks posting to .ml/.world
So keep up the praxis?
These are obvious faults in the fed structure and can and should be addressed via server and client features. The fediverse concept is a technology in its infancy and it's allowed to stumble as it learns to walk.
They feel like the only tool to prevent this is defederation. We also have instance blocking server side, right? Is there an in-between feature that could work? Something weird like shareable instance filter lists. Or a "maybe" category - some "Enter at your own risk" flag an instance could set short of defederation?
I'm not here just because fuck spez etc, but because I think the fediverse will be a stepping stone to better tech to manage diverse populations, so I'm not really interested in fixing libs so much as having tools to better federate.
Also that comment got 20 upvotes, so I'm not entirely sure the lemmitors realised it was a joke.