Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries.
Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries.
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Can't election committees call recount anyway?
EVMs, especially those, that do not connect to the internet, are fine. Online voting on the other hand...
I think in year 2024 we should be able to vote using a fucking app. No gerrymandering, everyone 18 our older automatically registered to vote.
If we could do that we never see another Republican in office again. Add rank choice voting and we might even have people who give a shit and can fix this country.
100%
I can do my banking, file my taxes, access my social security, make changes to practically any national database, apply for citizenship, all online and secure.
But for some reason I can't vote online.
GTFOOH
We really need positive digital ID. The US DoD has the right idea with the CAC, though really it's just a digital certificate issued by the government. The smartcard format is convenient for being wallet-able but there's plenty of other form factors for these things these days.
It amazes me that we as a society do official, important real-life things on the Internet with no way to validate our identity.
I even cringe a bit anytime someone tells me to DocuSign. Buying my house was a trip, especially all the forms that took place before closing. Like, it's great that I'm signing these things digitally, but there's still no proof that I'm the one signing these. I'm not in the presence of a notary, lawyer, or any sort of witness. I'm just clicking a link on an email and drawing my finger on the screen. That could, theoretically, be anybody who gains access to my email, with or without my permission.
But, if I'm signing with a certificate, I have provided a PIN or password to unlock this device I carry on my person, that a trusted third party had given me when proved that I am who I say I am, in person. It's a solid technology and it really needs way better adoption.
But muh mark of the beast!
I docusign for our house and my land. I done that a lot. If I remember correctly you do have to sign up and there lots of hoops there. But never thought of it like that.
I just saying it should be easy to vote bullshit they know who are legal citizens and who are not, no matter what they say.
Hell make it where I can go online fill in all my information and automatically every time voting is taken place in my area I received a package in the mail. We fill it out vote and mail it back.
Federal holiday on voting, and automatic registration.
Hell make it where I can go online fill in all my information and automatically every time voting is taken place in my area I received a package in the mail. We fill it out vote and mail it back.
This is exactly how it works in Washington state. You get the ballot in the mail, fill it out, seal it up, and mail it back or drop it off in a drop box. It's worked great for years.
I want to be able to vote online, too, but then I think about how easy it is to falsify your identify online vs in person and I don't know how it could work without introducing a new level of probable fraud.
I'm confident that if done correctly we can make it work. Like I said it would keep Republicans from ever winning again so be impossible to get our politicians to put money into a secure app that allow us to easily vote.
Barring that we should eliminate gerrymandering and electoral collge and make automatic registration for anyone over 18.
We know for a fact they can do that because they just did it with the draft.
Software guy here. I'd like a paper ballot. If it's possible, it wouldn't be done correctly anyway.
I think in year 2024 we should be able to vote using a fucking app.
Putin approves.
Please don't do this on country scale. Relevant xkcd.
No gerrymandering,
Agreed. That's fucked.
everyone 18 our older automatically registered to vote.
USA has another "worse that Russia" award here.
Add rank choice voting and we might even have people who give a shit and can fix this country.
Last step would be removal of Iron Throne(presidency) and USA becoming United Soviet States of America.
Fuck you. You think rank choice voting and automatic registration are bad?
Fuck you. You think rank choice voting and automatic registration are bad?
You attribute statement to me, that I didn't say. Very manipulative.
I said that after implementing RCV there are other things to improve. Like removal of post, that concentrates obscene amount of power.
Sorry sounded like you were saying these things would lead us there.
So short answer is no. It is wierd to me you don't have automatic registration.
Nope they actually do everything they can to keep us from voting. Republicans wouldn't win another wise.
Nope? What? I just said that I don't think "rank choice voting and automatic registration are bad" and I think "It is wierd to me you don't have automatic registration". What is this supposed to mean? I don't understand. What are we disagreeing on?