Canada warns LGBT travellers of US risks
The Canadian government warns that some US states have enacted laws that may affect LBGT people.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/2089998
Archived version: https://archive.ph/X5D30
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230830081318/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66654134
About damned time. I was checking the LGBT travel advisories a few months ago, and was surprised that the US was green. Absolutely no way should anyone be travelling to Florida.
There's a state-by-state map updated last in June here: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/june-anti-trans-legislative-risk
US is too big and diverse to rate as one unit. It should be broken down into states since the laws can vary so wildly.
That's what they eventually did. They do that with other countries as well.
I mean, good call, Canada.
Red states are dangerous for any nonwhite male. Women? Traveling to a red state and get raped? Whelp better hope you don't find out that you are pregnant while still in the state. LGBTQ+? Whelp, better hope no one knows your sexual identity or you could be denied life saving medication or could be jailed for simply using the wrong bathroom. Black? Whelp, people are literally hunting you while you try to pick up snacks at the local dollar general.
This comment is hyperbole.
Black? Whelp, people are literally hunting you while you try to pick up snacks
No need to overexaggerate to such an extreme that your comment loses any value it might've had.
So Canadá is going to let trans people get treatment with informed consent model, right?
Right?
Some of our states are really good for trans people. A map of which regions yo avoid would be far more helpful than a blanket warning.
Erin Reed maintains a pretty good one:
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/june-anti-trans-legislative-risk
Florida holds a unique status within these states, with travel advisories warning against visits. The “do not travel” recommendation extends to even connecting flights through Florida. As of July 1, transgender individuals could face up to a year in jail for using the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity. This risk persists even for those who have legally altered their identification documents. The state retains the power to investigate an individual's birth gender to determine if a crime has been committed simply by using the bathroom - investigations that could involve genital exams, chromosome testing, and more.
Wow, that's some serious third world country shit. Horrifying!
Yes her map is good, I just wish it didn't show "states with a possibility in 2 years" in such a dark red color as it is misleading when compared to like... Actual bad states.
Not getting treatment with informed consent =/////////= US risks
A lot of states with those laws probably also have "Stand Your Ground" laws and loose guns regulations, so really nobody should go there.
And as a blue blooded, god feering, gun toting, truck driving, steak eating, pussy grabbing, anti-woke, America first, patriot like myself that is exactly what we want. -s
The actual risk of being effected is still pretty low.
also have "Stand Your Ground" laws
What exactly do you think these laws mean?
It eases the legal requirement to run away when someone attacks you, as opposed to fighting back.
Edit: Oh, that was rhetorical.
Canada should issue an advisory for people travelling to Alberta
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Anti-LGBT protests in the US rose 30-fold last year compared with 2017, while legal moves to restrict LGBT rights are on the rise.
The term 2SLGBTQI+ is widely used in Canada for people who consider themselves two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning or intersex.
"Since the beginning of 2023, certain states in the US have passed laws banning drag shows and restricting the transgender community from access to gender-affirming care and from participation in sporting events," they told CBC News.
In March, Tennessee's governor signed laws banning drag performances in front of children and restricting medical treatment for transgender youth.
Two months later, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed bills banning children from undergoing transgender medical treatments or going to drag shows, and restricting pronoun use in classrooms.
On Monday, a mural in Florida dedicated to Irish journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot dead in 2019, was defaced with a swastika and anti-LGBT graffiti.
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2SLGBTQI+
I support diversity and Im happy to let anyone be whoever they want to be, as long as they are not hurting anyone, but we need to stop adding letters to the LGBTQ community.
Global Affairs Canada warned
Is this an NGO or a GO?
This is an official government warning confirmed by the Deputy Prime Minister. From the source:
Asked why the guidance had been updated, Canadian Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland told reporters in Atlantic Canada that the government employed experts "to look carefully around the world and to monitor whether there are particular dangers to particular groups of Canadians".
She declined to comment when asked whether there had been discussions with the US government before making the change.
GO. It's a Federal Government department that is jointly run by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of International Development, and the Minister of International Trade. Putting out travel advisories is part of their mandate.
Most Canadian GO follow a [Purpose] Canada naming scheme. If you want a SIN (equivalent to an SSN) you got to Services Canada. You get your weather warnings from Enviroment Canada. Drugs are related by Health Canada. Natural Resources Canada does the obvious. Parks Canada does National Parks. Transport Canada does highways and waterways.
I mean, stay the hell away from Florida and you should be ok.
Amerika is at the point where people in California get shot for flying a rainbow flag.
No it's really not.
Recommend doing a bit of real traveling. As far as things go on a global scale a lot more FUD comes out of the US because it is an absolute media machine and everyone has their eyes glued on it at all times. As far as real world acceptance of LGBT it doesn't get much better anywhere globally than California. In my experience other than perhaps, some select parts of Western Europe, the comfort level for LGBT travelers is much higher in the US than most places. There are cesspools like Florida that stand out, but this travel warning is largely propaganda.
“It’s Florida and Texas and red states that are the problem,” I tell myself as my entire country continues to collapse in a thousand different ways. “It’s Florida and Texas and red states. If we just had 60 Democrats in the senate and a more moderate SCOTUS (like in 2008), everything everywhere would be perfect! I mean, just look at all Obama managed to accomplish during that time! Endless drone strikes, corporate welfare, and a health care “plan” endorsed by the Heritage Foundation that made no difference to health insurance prices (which continued to rise as though nothing had happened) and left tens of millions of people uninsured or underinsured and which led to tens of thousands of deaths over the years due to lack of coverage—and that was before the pandemic even started! It’s not the system designed by genocidal slave owners that’s the problem, we just need to get rid of the corrupt elites and replace them with GOOD elites and everything will work itself out!”
Calls for violence against queer people are being broadcast everywhere, not just in red states. Also learn to care about people trapped in red states.
What do you mean? Some massive nerd on here the other day was telling me how its totally easy to move, and people who don't are just choosing to stay poor and marginalized!
Until Democratic centrists sacrifice trans people to pass various "must pass" bills after House GOP reps put poison-pill regulations into them and try to make a new Hyde Amendment, prohibiting Federal support for gender-affirming care and opening the door to outright legal discrimination federally.
And that's assuming they don't lose the Senate/Presidency.
I live less than 2 hours from the Canadian border in one of the most progressive states and there's trucks in town painted red white and blue with 3% logos and the moaning labia shit.
There's another one with two stickers on the back window "kill your local pedophile" with somebody getting shot execution style and "democrats are pedophiles"
Everywhere in America 30 minutes outside a major city is like that.
Yup - northern state, near Canada, usually blue voters. Regularly see thin blue line stickers, confederate flags, punisher skulls, thin blue line themed punisher skulls, “protect our children” slogans n shit…hell I’ve seen at least a couple black suns on cars around here, which is a lot more mask off than I expected (and waaaaaay more alarming)
moaning labia
Yeah, those are hillbillies - they are all over the place. Many of them are actually homosexual believe it or not. If we are talking bumper stickers though, can't say I've come across many anti-LGBT ones. Mostly confederate flags and black and white flags with blue stripes all in the generic grab bag of generalized hatred. I stay away from those people / areas as it's just not my crowd, but not sure what this has to do with the safety of LGBT visitors to the US. Linking these stickers to that is a pretty broad sweep.
ITT: Crying americans because other countries realize what a shit show america is
I have learned from this thread that ALL TRANS PEOPLE ARE HATEFUL PEOPLE.
Girl on the left got some big ass tittays
Does the US need to put out a warning to disabled travelers? Go to Canada and they will tell you to kill yourself.
What "risks" are they talking about?
Dude, stop sealioning already. Get a different hobby
https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states
2SLGBTQI+ travellers Some states have enacted laws and policies that may affect 2SLGBTQI+ persons. Check relevant state and local laws.
And then it links to: https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/health-safety/lgbt-travel
2SLGBTQI+ is widely used in Canada for people who consider themselves two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning or intersex.
Yeah I don't believe that lol, tf is that nonsense if a term
we're adding letters every time you complain about it.
When speaking I always try and say LGBT+, the "+" being everyone else. Or just queer, which is a decent cover-all on it's own. The ever longer acronyms get in the way of the point.
think we need to solve this with some regex. Do they accept wild card * ?
For early adopters, the term "Two Spirit" was a deliberate act to differentiate and distance themselves from non-Native gays and lesbians
Differentiating yourselves from an already marginalized group? That's a bold move Cotton...
definitely learned a new one today...Two Spirit on Wikiwand
2SLGBTQ is a common term in the queer community where I'm from.
Yep, common up here
ah just rolls off the tongue doesn't it
2SLGBTQI+
I wonder how many fucking numbers and letters they will keep adding over the fucking years.
Gay people talk shit about it 24/7, it’s becoming a fucking joke of a name.
Edit: Random fucking morons attacking me and calling me a bigot, you are truly a bunch of imbecile.
every time you complain about it we add more
Edit: Random fucking morons attacking me and calling me a bigot, you are truly a bunch of imbecile.
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LMAOOO now go make your Hexbear cyberbullying callout post on Estonian potato forums
oh no I posted bigotry and now they're calling me out for bigotry - I'm the real victim here.
"The minorities are bullying me! Help, help, I'm being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in their mockery!"
we will keep including people until you choke on it, bigot
Honestly, including people is why i prefer just saying queer over using acronyms. It's completely open-ended, it doesn't create a hierachy based on who gets named first and who ends up with one of the slots behind the LGBT that may or may not be included by a given speaker, it's easy to use, it doesn't shoehorn people into rigid categories and makes it easy to fit in for people who are questioning or have complex identities - and it pisses off the exact type of bourgousified, reactionary, assimilationist, racist, mysogynist, transphobic, biphobic cis gays that the farthead you're replying to refers to when they bring up how supposedly "gay people shit talk" all of this.
customized snoo
I wonder how many fucking numbers and letters they will keep adding over the fucking years.
Numbers and letters over the years:
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself"
Galations 5:14
"Be genial, sweet and kind towards your companions."
Mino-ī-Kherad, II.7
“For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”
Jeremiah 4:22
You named yourself after a washer as best I could tell, not quite sure what point you're trying to make. Are you also gonna bump your name out a bit to get with the times or are you gonna grow old and mad with the years?
cool snoo, ledditor
I love the LGBTQ+ acronym because it pisses off assholes
All of you trans people are hateful.
lmao go eat some grass nerd
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think even the LGBT+ community gets annoyed with it. It's the media that seems to want to keep adding letters to this ever-growing acronym.
In my opinion, it just makes the whole thing seem more like a joke to the people who want to find reasons to dislike the movement.
People who are homophobic or transphobic don't care what terminology we use. We could literally only use the word "gay" and they would absolutely continue to hate us.
Also, the use of progressive terminology originates within the queer community. 2SLGBTQ as an acronym began being used specifically to acknowledge two spirit people, who have faced a great amount of racism and queerphobia even from within the queer community. This term was neither invented by the media nor popularized by it.
Which is apparently working, looking at the upset boomers in comment chains like this one.
Gay people talk shit about it 24/7, it's becoming a fucking joke of a name.
I’ve been saying for years if we just said queer and trans we could pretty much capture the whole thing. In a lot of ways I think straight cis folks and corporate culture are some of the main drivers of the alphabet soup acronym because they can’t imagine saying queer.
