You think that you understand philosophy better than Immanual Kant?

I'm sorry but that's just kind of ridiculous.

I don't hate you. But your advocating some really messed up stuff. It harms other people. And it makes you unhappy. You've been deceived. You should snap out of it my friend. Question the things you take for granted and open your mind to new possibilities.

I didn't read your post. Just the nasty last part of it so I knew it wasn't worth reading. It's a trick from Reddit. A lot of the time people will pretend to build consensus and like rapport with someone and then turnaround and be nasty. It's a pretty passive aggressive and weak way of dealing with people. It always leaves a distinct feeling of bitchiness in the air. As in whiny and pathetic and unpleasant.

It's a bizarre way to act.

That's because he's a man who thinks he's a woman.

Communism is bad. Lenin was a murderer and Stalin was worse.

You don't care to argue and then you make statements that invite argument.

Okay I won't argue with you. You're wrong.

There, that's the end of it.

Most of my best friends are atheist and agnostics and I'm actually a liberal Christian.

I mean I will absolutely just stay away from anything with .ml

People have warned me. I value freedom of speech more than almost anything after having it taken from me on the internet. I now understand how precious this constitutional freedom is. And I understand how the lack of it destroys society.

I draw the line at rape, incest, or when the mother's health is in life-threatening risk. Statistically these make up less than 15% of all abortions.

Welcome to the limitations of pure logic friend. There are limits to pure reason as Immanuel Kant observed.

I'm anticipating your arguments. And it leaves you without recourse and you're not sure what to do with that.

Just like you anticipated an argument there. But you're wrong because I don't think abortion is murder. I think it's ugly and I think it's awful and I think it should be reduced and should not be allowed for any other reason than health threatening risk, rape or incest.

But it's not murder. I don't think we should be able to kill animals for convenience. I would place it in between an animal and an adult, fully born human.

How fragile is your worldview that someone disagreeing with you automatically makes them a troll?

Well then I disagree with most Democrats on that.

Then you're voting for Trump because that's the reality of our two-party system and I agree that it sucks but...

That makes literally zero sense. You don't support everything that Biden does even though he's better than Trump.

So you're just going to stay home and not vote which in a purple state will count as a vote for Orange Hitler.

Who will undoubtedly commit far more genocide according to your definition of it which is basically just any war.

What? Lol

Why is it that political extremists seem to dominate the conversation on social media? I don't want a forum made up of communists or neo-nazis. Lmao that's so cartoonish that I have to say that but here we are.

I'm sorry but that's in no way an objective source. On this particular social issue, that's like citing Fox News. I'll take some local news website or something that lists that sources or best of all the scientific study on the reluctance of doctors to perform abortions.

But I will not accept an NPR editorial on abortion as evidence.

Also that slogan is not as pithy as you think. Lol. Kind of makes you sound like a wine mom.

I don't and I don't actually normally care all that much about abortion but when I see crazy radical talking points like I have in this thread it makes me more of a pro-life activist. Left or right I have very little patience for nonsense.

One dude implied in regard to pregnancy that a baby is like a parasite and when the mother no longer consented to her body being used by the baby she could just flush it away like a turd. That's sick framing. Treating unborn human beings like they're disposable is sick. And I don't buy the bodily autonomy argument. Many of these same people will advocate for mandatory vaccines but yet will scream pro-choice slogans at rallies. And vaccines are way safer than abortion. Shoot even I support mandatory vaccination.

As political extremism and echo chambers become more common I feel I have a moral and civic duty to pop those bubbles by presenting dissenting viewpoints. I can do that here due to the lack of censorship I've encountered so far whereas I can't do that on Reddit so it becomes more and more unhealthy over there.

My real enemy is echo chambers and political extremism on both sides of the aisle. It's already unrecoverable and nightmarish on the right, I don't want it to get that bad on the left.

Even if it doesn't show in what people type, me presenting arguments against abortion still provides a useful catalyst for critical thinking and discussion. It is definitely a small contribution but it's certainly better than a vacuum of dissenting opinions.

No. And the more you try and force this kind of stuff on people and especially children the more you're going to experience real pushback. If you think someone politely disagreeing with you is bigotry you haven't seen anything yet.

Yes as I've said many places and I probably should have been more clear in my original comment there should always be exceptions for rape, incest or when the mother's health is in life threatening risk.

I'll even go one further than you did and I would say that we should make contraception free and just pass it out like candy and I don't just mean condoms I mean all types. Not reduced cost. Totally free. I'm pro-life and that would reduce abortions tremendously. Most pro life people are not extremists or anti-contraception.

I'm also happy to pay higher taxes to provide prenatal care and I support Universal health Care in general. Medicare for all.

You are a man and you have been fooled into this belief by a segment of society. It will haunt you until you accept your actual nature which is what you were born as.