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You are trying so hard to twist words to avoid saying "Paid mods" and "Paid beta access"

No, you were literally saying Epic was better than Steam

Point to where I said that.

paid exclusives

The same thing Steam did to secure its monopoly.

You are literally saying that the Epic store doing the same scummy things as Steam, makes it worse than Steam.

This is why gaming is in the shape it's in.

If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever

There were so many more platforms, now lost to time from G*mer who never knew any different and think 4 is a lot. IGN even had one.

Loot boxes came from MMOs

https://www.vg247.com/the-harsh-history-of-gaming-microtransactions-from-horse-armor-to-loot-boxes

but the first shot at them on the Western side of things was Valve's Team Fortress 2. In June 2011, Valve transitioned the game to a free-to-play business model after the launch of the Mann-conomy update in 2010, which introduced crates and item trading. MMOs that fell on hard times, like Star Trek Online and Lords of the Rings Online, switched to the model when they went free-to-play as well.

Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.

Steam early access, and greenlight.

That's why I don't put the /s there. Always draws out the Stockholmed masses.

And extremely successful teams fetch a big price tag. Even for just a slice.

Imagine being so Stockholmed that you miss the point that bad.

Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000's?

Which one popularised micro transactions?

Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

Which one popularised the current "Sell now, fix later" model

Which one bricks older titles because of it's DRM requirements

(The answer is Steam btw, I know I'll need to spell it out for G*mers)

No. Obviously. I know G*mers aren't smart but I'm clearly talking about Steam.

G*mers when you don't use their monopolistic service: 😡

I was being sarcastic.

Valve are monopolistic, popularised micro transactions, directly profit from loot boxes and gambling.

If gamers weren't so brainwashed and Stockholmed syndromed they would realise that.

The exact moment WCW dies. There was no turning the ship around after this.

(Also 20 years since the XWF DVDs)

Hunter: "We gave you WWE talent ugh, you should ask for a billion dollars ugh. You should go live every week and move to Mondays ugh. People loved that era"

At the end of the season next year I'm expecting to hear about the RB team being up for sale.

Yeah, but counter point.

It's got Steam branding.

Another win for the good guys.

Maybe you should do something instead of just moving names on an imaginary list.

When did I say that?

Proof that the measures of a great race isn't the on track action.

But the story that was told along the way.

Oreos are just shite bourbons

NK needs foreign money. They can't afford to cheap out that.