then do the same with incest, if thats where you want to go with it.

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Agreed, you seem to be on your own little moon. Have a nice day.

okay, so we've made clear you're unwilling to engage regardless, it doesn't help your case. This thread was a lost cause regardless.

Should we restart, or just leave it be?

I restarted the whole thing and answered the question, you seem to be capable of a response. Do you have an actual question besides quips?

that seems to be the whole argument in the first place from what i've seen, but i digress.

Yes! Would you have sexual intercourse with a family member? Why not? They're a totally able bodied human! You participate in sex, and thats a small step from it.

No its wrong because it is morally and completely wrong, with various mental and physically ill issues stemming from it.

Its wrong because you are having sexual intercourse with an animal, which is something against nature and just wrong in literally every way. Its one of the true taboos of humanity, you don't do it.

To suggest that going from turkey dinner to fucking turkey is a small step for carnists is the stupidest thing you could say in this. There are a myriad of arguments you can use to pick clean carnism, this session has stuck to one of the stupidest in existence. I swear I thought there were people with more than just vibes based politics here, but this shows that I will have to block a few fools in order to experience the site without crawling through ideological dung.

just the struggle session, i heard they were more or less frowned upon.

What does this even mean? You could just not give a reason, it'd look less problematic.

if you're going to feign ignorance and disengage from the rest just to mock, I think all you have is your infantile sense of humor, not an argument.

For the love of god make a statement or take a position. Make a substantive claim or something. Or at least explain

No, a real position is just a ban, especially if it doesn't match vulgar ideology like the ones shown in these comments.

But it does make sense. It makes perfect sense. You know what question is being asked. Your feigning confusion because you don't want to answer but you were compelled to reply anyway because you took exception to the gist of my argument.

It literally doesn't make sense. The example you just randomly magikked into existence to mock didn't even reflect a real situation. Farmers do not get sexual gratification from their work, they slaughter and move on. Its a malformation of an argument designed to do nothing but bring moral scorn upon the subject.

I do not want to truly engage with an entity that has the opinion that people are one step from having sexual intercourse with animals because they eat thanksgiving turkey. Most people either don't care or don't think about where it comes from. Educate them there, don't make up some 'moral' nonsense to browbeat them over. This isn't class, this isn't marxism, this is veganism. An important matter but far less so than others of gender, sexual, and worker liberation.

It seems you've run out of things to do, you and your compatriot are very similar.

If you think it sounds crazy, maybe take a look at the things you've been saying. The logic itself is indeed mind-numbingly screwed.

Do you often hide like this, behind a phrase critique or emojis, or is this a special sort of backtracking

okay, perhaps we are both scattered

so I will answer their question

it is wrong to perform sexual acts on an animal. Because it is wrong to have sex outside of your zone of sexual interest. Should a fox fuck a porcupine? They eat it so what else is different? Silly logic for vulgar ideology, in my opinion.

I don't see a single person defending that at all, even the banned dude.

So intention means nothing? You have jumped from vulgar ideology to vulgar materialism.

These are extremely online arguments. And using parallels that just don't match. Again, find an argument worth having.

What? When did I do that? When did I even state any logic at all? I asked someone to explain their logic.

Do you not believe that? we are vegans.

you are now dodging your own logic, interesting

When did I say any of that, I was just asking for an improvement in arguing methods. Relying on nothing but vulgar ideology does nothing for you. This isn't a marxist debate, this is some strange superiority complex induced vibes session.

Yes you are correct in the main opinion of veganism, but you have obviously not found the finer details.

You should probably close this post, it seems to be causing a fuss

White people don't get to have opinions on that of natives, you don't deserve it anymore. Im begging to think that veganism isn't a normal topic here, but some constant struggle to maintain.

Im sorry but this also reeks of the reddit suicide help thing. This isn't very good for arguing.