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What was the strategic purpose of bible when it was being written?
  • To record their version of "truth." There was no distinction between fact and fiction, they were written to establish the "official" history with the political and religious (again, no distinction) agenda they wanted people to follow. The idea that history should involve accurate facts of what actually happened is a relatively new phenomenon in human culture.

    Did the people of the time understand that nuance? I honestly don't know. I assume most of the uneducated masses didn't, which is why the elites wrote that way.

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    Tracing the Roots of the Christian Nationalist Movement That’s Influencing Modern Politics
    projects.propublica.org Tracing the Roots of the Christian Nationalist Movement That’s Influencing Modern Politics

    The Christian right has become an increasingly powerful force in American politics at every level, from school boards to the presidency. Its roots trace back decades.

    Tracing the Roots of the Christian Nationalist Movement That’s Influencing Modern Politics
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    A Christian Gun Cult Holds a Trump Festival
    www.thenation.com A Christian Gun Cult Holds a Trump Festival

    The annual Rod of Iron Freedom Festival was as absurd as it was terrifying.

    A Christian Gun Cult Holds a Trump Festival

    > In 2017, Rod of Iron Ministries splintered from the Unification Church, a Korean cult founded by Sean Moon’s father, Sun Myung Moon. Adherents are called Moonies and believe that Sun Myung Moon is the messiah. Two of Sun Myung Moon’s sons, Sean and Kook-jin, or Justin, founded Rod of Iron Ministries. The church has many of the same core beliefs as the Unification Church—but it claims that AR-15s are the “rod of iron” that Jesus wields in the Book of Revelation. Perhaps not coincidentally, Justin Moon founded Kahr Arms, a firearms manufacturer that produces a commemorative Donald Trump AR-15.

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    White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • Your trolling is tiresome. I'm done pretending you're discussing anything with any integrity.

  • White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • Biden is the one deciding US policy, and the responsibility for our foreign policy failures rest with him. There are two viable candidates running to replace him. One candidate promises a less conciliatory approach with Netanyahu, the other promises to help escalate the atrocities.

    Which do you think will get you closer to your stated goals?

    When you start engaging in good faith, you will get good faith in return.

  • White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • No, your second point doesn't make your case. Biden isn't running now, or did you forget? Not to mention, it doesn't change anything about what the author has to say about the political goals of evangelicals and how Trump would deliver for them, which is the topic of the article.

    I hear Putin calling. You better check and see what he wants.

  • White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • Nevermind that. He said he wanted to call out the military on anyone who didn't vote for him on live television. Why isn't the NYT reporting on that?

    Oh, it's just Trump!

    At this point, I'm fairly convinced that the people trying to argue that we shouldn't support Democrats because of a single issue, no matter how important that issue, are Russian assets.

  • White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • You still haven't explained how the author is wrong here. All you've told me is why you think the author is icky.

    My point stands.

  • White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
  • ...I'm not seeing anything explaining how the author is wrong. Ad hominem is not an argument.

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    White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
    johnpavlovitz.substack.com White Evangelicals Must Lose in November

    A desperate plea from a former pastor who knows what's coming

    White Evangelicals Must Lose in November

    From a former pastor who knows what the insiders talk about: a warning we would be foolish to ignore.

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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • Okay, but what about the not-kind things Jesus said? How are the people following those words somehow not Christian?

  • Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • So please answer the question: what evidence do you have that these people aren't "Christian?"

  • Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • He said more than that, though. They're probably following the other Jesus who called a foreign woman a dog, along other things. Let's take a closer look.

  • Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • Do you have evidence to the contrary?

  • Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • I hope you checked again and made sure you're still registered this weekend.

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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers

    Sick and tired of all the political content in forums like this? The authoritarians and theocrats are hoping you won't pay attention to how they're organizing to steal the next election.

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    My religion is atheist?
  • Right. I don't believe is my position as an atheist. I don't know is why.

    How is this so difficult for you?

  • How to kill God?
  • That's pretty weak tea, especially considering how so many Christians (but not all, I know) insist that Jesus and Yahweh are the same person, just different aspects.

  • How to kill God?
  • Sure, but the text claims he was already dead by that point. So we're back to my original claim.

  • My religion is atheist?
  • You're using the modified definition of "agnostic" that believers favor. We have no reason to accept that.

    "Agnostic" literally means "I don't know." "Atheist" means "I don't believe." I don't know that gods are real, and I have no reason to believe they do.

    No faith required.

  • How to kill God?
  • When it comes to the Christian God, that's easy.

    https://biblehub.com/judges/1-19.htm

    The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.

    https://biblehub.com/1_kings/6-7.htm

    In building the temple, only blocks dressed at the quarry were used, and no hammer, chisel or any other iron tool was heard at the temple site while it was being built.

    While the Bible never says what was used to fix Jesus to the cross, tradition says it was three iron nails. There are two reasons why the account of the crucifixion is atypical of normal Roman executions: first of all, they didn't usually waste good iron nailing victims to their crosses. They tied them to the posts. Secondly, crucifixion victims normally took days to die of dehydration and suffocation, which is why the Romans did it that way. But Jesus allegedly died in hours, not days.

    So clearly, Yahweh has a weakness to iron. I fear no gods I know how to kill.

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    How ‘Left Behind’ Got Left Behind
    www.thebulwark.com How ‘Left Behind’ Got Left Behind

    A changing political mood among evangelicals has many believers imagining the end of the world differently than they used to.

    How ‘Left Behind’ Got Left Behind

    Since the advent of the Trump era, the evangelical landscape has undergone rapid shifts, often in turbulent and dangerous directions. To be sure, there are still plenty of evangelical premillennialists out there faithfully waiting on the Rapture. But their sequestering, defensive posture is becoming outmoded. Remarkably, the most prominent and powerful new leaders—the ones dedicated to fully recentering evangelical politics on Donald Trump, and who have grown their power and influence through their association with him—are overwhelmingly anti-Rapture. They believe Christians have a more active and forceful role to play in the end of the world.

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    Talking to a brick wall | Jesus and Mo

    This is a repost from 2009.

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    To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”
  • Do you think they’ll go away if Trump fails to take the White House?

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    To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”
    www.motherjones.com To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”

    These extremely online young Christian men want to end the 19th Amendment, restore public flogging, and make America white again.

    To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”
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    In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools
  • They're using this to provoke challenges against the wall of separation between church and state. They feel confident, with good reason, that the christofascist majority on the Supreme Court will reinterpret our Constitution to eliminate that law.

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    In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools
    www.propublica.org In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools

    The state is giving millions in taxpayer dollars directly to private schools to help them renovate and expand their campuses. It may be the next frontier in the push to increase the use of school vouchers, proponents say.

    In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools

    The march to theocracy continues.

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    The Christian Nationalist Vision for America
    tomdispatch.com Project 2025

    Roman poet Juvenal coined the phrase “bread and circuses” nearly 2,000 years ago for the extravagant entertainment the Roman Empire used to distract attention from imperial policies that caused widespread discontent. Imagine the lavish banquets,

    Project 2025

    There are a lot of good overviews of Project 2025 and the threat it poses to everyone who lives in America as well as beyond our borders. Here's a look at the Christian Nationalist intent behind it.

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    The man who set the stage for an imperial presidency if Trump wins

    ...pay attention to Leonard Leo. He is the judicial kingmaker responsible for the list from which Trump selected Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Leo has shaped this Court and acted effectively to keep its Republican justices from abandoning his – and their – sectarian-right vision of America.

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    Trump backers say he shares their Christian faith and values
    apnews.com Trump backers say he shares their Christian faith and values

    Donald Trump's support from white evangelicals and other conservative Christians is as strong as ever.

    Trump backers say he shares their Christian faith and values

    We're not going to be able to fix these people. The only hope we have is to outlast them.

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    'There's been so many' - Pedophile priest's eye-opening testimony in church sex abuse case
    www.wwltv.com 'There's been so many' - Pedophile priest's eye-opening testimony in church sex abuse case

    At one point in the deposition even Hecker became overwhelmed at the number of times with which he has been confronted with sex abuse allegations.

    Just when you thought it was safe to back into the pew.

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    “An army of Jesus”: Inside Mike Johnson’s come-to-Jesus moment ahead of Ukraine reversal
    www.salon.com “An army of Jesus”: Inside Mike Johnson’s come-to-Jesus moment ahead of Ukraine reversal

    Johnson met evangelical leader of Ukraine’s National Prayer Breakfast before last week's press conference.

    “An army of Jesus”: Inside Mike Johnson’s come-to-Jesus moment ahead of Ukraine reversal

    It should surprise no one that Dominionist Mike Johnson's change of heart on Ukraine was bought by suggesting to him that it could serve his religious agenda.

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    We lost a great man today
    whyevolutionistrue.com Dan Dennett died today

    Well, this is unexpected, and details will be forthcoming. He was 82. I have lots of stories about Dan, and found him amiable and charitable, though sometimes he could be domineering, especially wh…

    Daniel Dennett, philosopher, atheist, and one of the tongue-in-cheek "Horsemen" of atheism, died today. He was 82.

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    Oklahoma man arrested after authorities say he threw a pipe bomb at Satanic Temple in Massachusetts
    apnews.com Oklahoma man arrested after authorities say he threw a pipe bomb at Satanic Temple in Massachusetts

    An Oklahoma man has been arrested after authorities accused him of throwing a pipe bomb at the headquarters of a group in Salem, Massachusetts, called The Satanic Temple.

    Oklahoma man arrested after authorities say he threw a pipe bomb at Satanic Temple in Massachusetts

    Surveillance cameras showed a man walk up to the building soon after 4 a.m. on April 8 wearing a face covering, tactical vest and gloves, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the FBI. The man then ignited an improvised explosive device, threw it at the main entrance then ran away. The bomb partially detonated, resulting in some minor fire damage, authorities said.

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    The Christian Nationalist Hydra: In Era of Trump, Christian Nationalism Has Many Faces

    FTA:

    > The bottom line is that Christian nationalism takes on different forms, and despite organizational or even ideological differences, ideas can penetrate the often porous borders between different camps. Someone who receives the daily email blast from the Family Research Council might also be drawn to Wolfe’s book, for example. On a more unnerving, macro level, major right-wing and GOP figures, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and the CEO of the Daily Wire, the podcast consortium run by conservative influencer Ben Shapiro, have embraced the rabidly antisemitic, Hitler-admiring antagonist Nick Fuentes, who is Catholic but also is accurately described as a Christian nationalist. The increasingly influential Catholic integralist movement, which seeks a Catholic-inflected replacement for the “liberal order,” is yet another unique form of Christian nationalism.

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    What Exactly Do the Christian Nationalists Want?
    talkingpointsmemo.com What Exactly Do the Christian Nationalists Want?

    Over the past month, I’ve been speaking with people who describe themselves...

    What Exactly Do the Christian Nationalists Want?

    ...In 2022, Stephen Wolfe (no relation to William) published a book called “The Case for Christian Nationalism.” The book was published by Canon Press, a publishing house that began as a ministry of Wilson’s church. Stephen K. Bannon, the Trump adviser, reportedly had a copy of the book stacked on his table.

    In the book, Wolfe lays out a vision that veers very far into the fantastic — he rails against the advancement of women over the past several decades by using the term “gynocracy,” and describes both the Obergefell decision and the 1965 immigration reform which abolished quotas on national origin as an “imperial imposition.” One chapter, called “The Christian Prince,” advocates for a “measured and theocratic caesarism.” Wolfe has suggested that he’s playing a somewhat coy game here, using “prince” to refer not necessarily to a monarch, but possibly to the aggregate form of American governmental power. Whatever it is, in his version of Christian nationalism the prince would promote “national self-love and a manly, moral liberty.”

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    No, America Doesn’t Need a MAGA ‘Day of Christian Visibility’
    nymag.com No, America Doesn’t Need a MAGA ‘Day of Christian Visibility’

    Trump’s efforts to conflate Christianity with his cause, and to mobilize both on behalf of transphobic hate, are offensive to both church and state.

    No, America Doesn’t Need a MAGA ‘Day of Christian Visibility’

    Pity the poor unseen majority who shove their religion in our faces every day. Won't someone think of them?

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    Trump and GOP use a fake panic about a "trans" Easter to justify their Christian nationalism
    www.salon.com Trump and GOP use a fake panic about a "trans" Easter to justify their Christian nationalism

    Phony claims that Democrats “mock your faith” are a cynical excuse to strip Americans of religious freedom

    Trump and GOP use a fake panic about a "trans" Easter to justify their Christian nationalism

    > It's easy to roll one's eyes as the self-serving dramatics of MAGA voters using false claims of victimhood as cover for their ugly views. But, as the threatening language in Greene's tweet shows, this "woe is us" act is deeply dangerous. The hyperbolic conspiracy theories and dehumanizing language serve to convince Republican voters that religious liberty and democracy are simply values they can no longer afford to hold. The message is Christians are so "under siege" that the only way to fight back is by stripping everyone else of basic rights.

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    Meet the viral gun influencers pushing a hardline Christian beliefs
    www.motherjones.com Meet the viral gun influencers pushing a hardline Christian beliefs

    T.Rex Arms sells gun accessories. According to one expert, "The product is ideology, too.”

    Meet the viral gun influencers pushing a hardline Christian beliefs

    They have money, they have influence, they have charisma, and they have technical expertise. And they're using to pursue a theocratic America, even if they have to kill anyone who gets in their way.

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