I just saw some parts of Vance talking. The crowd was dead. A lady behind him was falling asleep. If anything, he's going to blow Trump's election. When someone "charismatic" like Trump says something insane, the crowd can twist whatever real thoughts they had to join in on being with him.
Vance? Watching a wet garbage bag say the dumbest thing ever might honestly be the only concrete hope the Dems have. If I were Kamala and co I'd let him yap as much as possible and then replay his most boring crappy comments over and over.
Pence was the same way. Imo Trump's VP basically doesn't matter for the election, Trump supporters are voting for Trump, full stop. Like, Trump could probably have ran with Epstein in 2016 and still won.