Hamas says guard who killed Israeli hostage acted 'in revenge' against group's instructions
Hamas says guard who killed Israeli hostage acted 'in revenge' against group's instructions
CAIRO, Aug 15 (Reuters) - A Hamas guard who killed an Israeli hostage acted "in revenge" and against instructions after he heard news that his two children had been killed in an Israeli strike, a spokesperson for the group's armed wing said on Thursday.
"The (Hamas) soldier assigned as a guard acted in a retaliatory manner, against instructions, after he received information that his two children were martyred in one of the massacres conducted by the enemy," Abu Ubaida said on Telegram.
"The incident doesn't represent our ethics and the instructions of our religion in dealing with captives. We will reinforce the instructions," he added.
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Inevitable for some soldiers to go against instructions. Can't imagine what it's like to hear your two children have been killed...
Hamas had a whole investigation and remediation in the space of days, in the middle of a war zone. Meanwhile we're still waiting to find out who killed Shireen Abu Akleh over 2 years ago.
Keep in mind it's always possible that they do this partly for PR. But at least they were transparent, even if they did in to look good. After all, next to Israel, anyone would look good.
No Israeli hostages so far suffered injuries from their guards while put in captivity. This incident was the exception.
I think there probably were some? Pretty sure some released hostages described abuse and sexual assault.
I hate Hamas, as a Palestinian, but Hamas fighters are not demons... they are not angels either.
Whereas there are a multitude of reliable sources citing Israelis forces torturing and raping Palestinian prisoners until death. Not isolated incidents, but a multitude of seperate situations.
I never denied that and nothing I said points to anything against that. Some Hamas fighters still raped and abused some captives. This is reality. These people also have the right to have their story heard because it's just one part of the truth.
One started making claims of sexual assault 100 days after her release in the day 50 prisoner swap.
It was mentioned released hostages are pressured by the Israeli government into making false confessions. They tell them if they lie there will be more pressure on Hamas to release other hostages.
No physical signs of any abuse was found.
Thanks for pointing that out. No denying this. Is this about Amit Soussanna? Would be curious to see a timeline for that. But also as a rape victim myself, it took me years to finally come out and tell my parents what had happened. It's possible that she is lying, but also possible that she is saying he truth. It doesn't say anything politically about Hamas or Palestinians... it's just a thing that is likely to have happened.
The thing is, it would also be naive to assume that no sexual assault or abuse happeend. Even Hezbollah (a much more disciplined army) will have cases like that.
Cite the sexual abuse stuff from a reputable source, or edit your comment.
Before I do that can I say this?
I guess what you mean to ask is: was this part of the NYT report or not? Is that right?
And also, I agree that much of that report was BS, but is that enough to discredit every single story in it? You may pretty well be denying rapes that did take place. I have no reason to deny the testimonies of these women. Hamas fighters are not angels and it would be quite naive to assume that no rape happened. What I said does not suggest that Hamas carries out systematic rape. Maybe that is a claim more worth your time to moderate than "some victims came out and spoke out about sexual assault during captivity."
But if this is how things roll in this community then just ban me 😉
And the family of the hostages can kill whoever they want to "in revenge"? You guys really have twisted morals.
Hamas: Shit, one of our guys got upset and killed an Israeli prisoner. This isn't good.
Israel: We have a moral right to r*pe any Palestinian prisoners we want to.
over 40,000 palestinians are killed in revenge for october 7th
1 israeli hostage is killed by their guard in revenge for the murder of his children
200k not 40k
Even the 200k number is "conservative"
The scale of death and destruction is absolutely inhuman.
the family of the hostages can kill whoever they want
Yes, Israel has been doing this since October. Yes, their morals are sickening.
Where did the comment you're replying to say this
I don't have any sympathy for israelis