Israel-Palestine escalation live: Strikes hit Gaza after Hamas offensive
Israel-Palestine escalation live: Strikes hit Gaza after Hamas offensive
Palestinian fighters enter Israel and thousands of rockets are fired as Hamas launches large-scale operation.
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Been seeing claims on social media (so of course be skeptical) of at least one destroyed Merkava tank, POWs taken from that tank, a Zionist Entity military barracks overwhelmed with loss of all occupiers inside, and Palestinian fighters in control of at least one illegal settlement.
May Palestine finally be free, from the river to the sea.
The unit the barracks allegedly belonged to. If true it means some of those responsible for the killing of Ibrahim al-Nabulsi have been brought to justice.
something tells me retaliation for this wont be pretty for them
It won't be, but nothing about being forced in an open air concentration camp is pretty
i know, im from a colony too.
just makes me sad.
The only path to victory is protracted guerilla war. Their best case scenario is fighting for a decade.
There are videos of a Merkava destroyed by a drone-launched PG-7, photos of a second destroyed Merkava, and videos of MANPADS shooting down Israeli helicopters.
I saw the footage of a drone dropping an explosive on a Merkava. Video cut out before the smoke cleared so who knows if the tank was knocked out? I know at least one Merkava was burned and IDF prisoners taken from it, so entirely possible.
The only video of Israeli helicopters I've seen are video game fakes a la Ukrainian cope from 2022.
Palestinian freedom currently involves the indiscriminate murder of civilians in villages occupied by Palestinian “fighters”.
Israel existing involves the indiscriminate massacre of Palestinians. You only care when they fight back. Eat shit
Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes?
I will not claim Israel is perfect, but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians.
Where did they get those homes?
They built them. I would wager less than 1% of settlers live in actually stolen homes.
Not to mention the people living around Gaza aren’t settlers.
your wagers are as worthless as you are.
Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes.
Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force.
but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians.
That is categorically untrue. What do you think the intention of bombing the Gaza strip is? The population density there is too high for precision airstrikes to be a possibility. What do you think Israeli settlers stealing the homes of Palestinians is? Israel has bombed the offices of journalists and killed them before. How is that not intending to harm civilians. Just because Israel uses the cloak of plausible deniability and fancy language to say that they don't target civilians, it doesn't make it true.
Why would they target civilians? Before you say genocide, let me remind you that the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades.
The only thing they would “gain” from targeting civilians is the creation of more terrorists. The people choosing the targets (soldiers) have families living in Israel, they have clear strategic goals they want to reach, it makes no sense for them to deliberately target civilians. Israel is a small country, I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians.
I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians.
no you don't
lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode.
They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats.
"the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades."
Hasbara talking point detected.
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but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians.
You mean like when apartment towers, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, media offices, etc. in the Gaza Strip get leveled? Also, what are the Israeli secret service doing in the Oliver Tambo Airport all the way in Johannesburg for the past 15 years?
Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes?
No, thats's why I'm anti-Isreal
Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes?
no, but you do, fascist piece of shit.
Yeah I guess 5,000+ Palestinians just happened to be involved in wacky Looney Toons accidents near Israeli military operations.
the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians.
And it's still happening, fully out of your reach. Cry like the bitch you are
Yet you guys freak out when this argument is used on Ukraine. Both are bullshit arguments btw.
I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say.
Did Ukrainian soldiers do this? I definitely don’t support that. I also have a lot of criticism for Ukraine, don’t assume I disagree with all your opinions just because you disagree with one of mine.
And it’s not a bullshit argument. Israel is a small country, there are a lot of people dead and missing, my girlfriend’s family lives in Sderot, she hasn’t heard from anyone since the early morning. This isn’t some theoretical argument on an online message board for me - people I know may have been killed by terrorists.
If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you'll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same).
Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. "oh please help i'm getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we're only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we're doing this for peace!"
Also, why do you think the "terrorists" are doing this? Surely it wouldn't be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known.
IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel's surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a "house search" where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don't know what they're searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base.
Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that "the terrorists fired on her", which was quickly debunked. They call that a "PR blitz". Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn't enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as "mowing the lawn".
So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don't agree with every method (just as i don't agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who's raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that's what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren't just going to surrender their land to the occupiers.
I'm sorry for you and for your girlfriend's family. I hope and pray they aren't hurt ... was going to write more but my heart breaks for them and for others as I write this. :'( I'm sorry that doesn't mean much coming from a randomer across the internet.
I try to remember the situation here is more complex than the parts I know about and read about, but having heard of what the insurgents are doing to civilians, and the glee at killing and degradation and massacre, I'm disgusted and sickened. And disgusted at people gleefully supporting such murder.