Dave Chappelle’s Obsession With Mocking Trans People Continues in New Netflix Special ‘The Dreamer’: ‘I Love Punching Down’
Dave Chappelle’s Obsession With Mocking Trans People Continues in New Netflix Special ‘The Dreamer’: ‘I Love Punching Down’
Dave Chappelle's comedy special "The Dreamer" has debuted on Netflix, and it's filled with jokes mocking transgender people.
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Remember when he was funny?
I used to love Chappelle. These past couple years don't offend me, they just bore the fuck out of me. Which is not what I look for in entertainment.
I'm absolutely fine with trans jokes or dead baby jokes or literally anything, just make sure and not to forget the joke part
Yeah, these aren't even jokes, more like some weirdass gross power fantasy.
“God forbid I ever go to jail. But if I do, I hope it’s in California. Soon as the judge sentences me, I’ll be like, ‘Before you sentence me, I want the court to know I identify as a woman. Send me to a woman’s jail.’ As soon I get in there, you know what I’mma be doing. ‘Give me your fruit cocktail, bitch, before I knock your motherfucking teeth out. I’m a girl, just like you, bitch. Come here and suck this girl dick I got. Don’t make me explain myself. I’m a girl.'”
I am trans, and it's hard to not take the insults personally, especially since this "edgy comedy" is coming from a comedian I used to admire and respect. What the fuck, Dave?
I can’t believe that’s a real joke he told—that’s not even a joke. I honestly haven’t watched any of his polemic ones because I just didn’t care to watch his standup anymore. When he lost his bright, loose energy he used to have during performances, I just wasn’t interested anymore. And now this is how far one of the previous greats has fallen?
It’s a classic. Rape! Ha ha ha. Amirite? It takes true genius to think that up. /s.
I had no clue his act was that pathetic.
You have to be just the ultimate asshole to think this is funny. When he did the equivalent of “my best friend is trans” qualifier on stage, the rabbit hole he went down became pretty obvious. He’s so talented that he doesn’t have a single person who can give him feedback. I guarantee you he’s surrounded by yes men and other comedians who are too chicken shit to say anything. Money and power corrupt always.
It's like a ricky gervais joke without the irony. What we have here is a guy with a grudge. He got cut; now he's lashing out. I'm pretty sure jo rowling did the same thing.
There’s a difference I think. Rowling seems to have actual trauma around men that she directed at trans women. When she accuses trans women of the worst behavior of men it seems to be from a position of fear of it being done to herself and people like her. Chappelle sounds like he’s saying that if he was allowed to be worse to women he would be.
But yeah in both cases it definitely seems to be a spiral of “how dare you be mad at me for dehumanizing you”. I’m reminded of Graham Linehan who threw away a career and a marriage over that same slight.
That's just the recycled joke every conservative talking head has told. It's not even creative.
Same joke about bathrooms or sports. "I'll just tell them I'm a woman, hurr durr."
Get new material if you're going to try to be edgy, Dave.
That's the type of joke someone's uncle would make in the bar after a few too many, or the one you think of and know better than to vocalize it... because it isn't really funny.
Louis CK can jokes about pedos and yet it is hilarious and generally well-received. This joke gives strong "I identify as an attack helicopter" energy. It is not funny, and he's basically just repeating the shitty talking points of right-wing pundits, and without sarcasm. It is humour-by-applause, it is not meant to be a satirical joke, but to have people who agree applause and cheers.
I’ve thought for quite some time there’s fertile ground for jokes about the trans experience, but they really need to be told by people who have lived that experience. There is something cosmically funny about being born into one body and feeling it is the wrong one.
why do you think only people who have been trans should be making trans jokes?
In general it takes a level of skill to tell a joke about a marginalized group without punching down that is exceptionally rare. For example, I can think of one or two male comedians who have told rape jokes that did not make rape victims the butt of the joke. If a trans person tells a joke about the trans experience and fucks it up, other trans people won’t feel like a cis person is just adding to the atmosphere of hate toward them.
My philosophy of comedy is that you can joke about any tragedy you want, but make it absolutely fucking crystal clear that you are on the victim's side. Plus, punching up is always funnier than punching down.
I think it definitely needs to be done tactfully and without hate, but joking about one another is an important part of being included and feeling like we all belong together.
Yeah, I gave his most recent specials a shot, but it's mostly just him ranting about his various beefs, which isn't good comedy.
Like, there are a handful of decent jokes, but the pacing sucks because he wants to air out all this dirty laundry in between.
At least Lenny had some actual real beefs to whine about.
First content I watched of him was a special on Netflix years ago, and I just couldn't finish it. Nothing he said punched or was structured as a joke. It really felt he was just having boring discussions with himself.
Yeah the Chappelle show, then he came back convinced he was both special and a victim.
My grandfather this, rich people in a room that, being black in America is the same as going to war. He is a prick without nuance.
You mean when he had a banger of a co-writer 😂