The worldview of EGI (elite gender inversion) is that any notable person ever is/was secretly trans. From this premise, their worldview becomes so convoluted that it's not even conventionally transphobic. For EGI believers, anyone famous and trans is actually a cis person who de-transitioned back to being cis. So for them, Caityin Jenner is a cis woman who transitioned as a trans man, won the Olympics, and then de-transitioned back to being a cis woman.
It's so odd and convoluted that it kinda rules. It's like transphobia that only targets the hottest cis celebrities. And there's no political organizing possibility because "it's all of them, it can be no other way" includes Trump and his birthing hips. The product of it is mostly drawing insane diagrams about celebrities.
In a way it's oddly trans affirming. If you're a trans woman, you were actually always a woman who briefly pretended to be a guy. If you're trans but she can't tell, you are actually trans (because you pass).
Absolutely delusional, however. How would these people explain the rampant transphobia & anti-trans violence happening now, if the world is ruled by trans people?
No, this line of logic is bad and unfunny, too much capacity for casting trans people in a "THEY(add your own triple brackets) CONTROL EVERYTHING, RUN THE BANKS, THE GUBMINT" type role. I smell the beginnings of possible stochastic terrorism incidents.
How would these people explain the rampant transphobia & anti-trans violence happening now, if the world is ruled by trans people?
That's the thing, these fascists think "Gender ideology" is the thing that everyone that isn't one of them believes.
It's not even ideology (obviously) and it's yet another thing they're convinced is real like "Cultural Marxists" infesting every single facet of liberals like the DNC etc. it's just incoherent fash ramblings that everyone who disagrees with their fascism is trans and communist.
They wouldn't explain anything because they are incoherent. They don't believe that this is wokeness run amok, or a trans agenda being pushed by the Democrats, or whatever. They believe that all elites throughout history were trans. As noted in the podcast, one notable EGI poster believes that Hitler and Stalin and Trump and every US president are all trans. It defies any coherent reactionary worldview. Who is your reactionary leader? Guess what, they're EGIs too.
I don't think these people will be the source of stochastic transphobic violence. Because again, if they were to target someone, they would attack cis celebrities who they believe are actually trans, unlike trans people who actually were always cis but briefly pretended to be trans.
There are absolutely reactionaries who use trans people as a standin for anti-semitism, but EGI conspiracists seem pretty different. Maybe there's an unholy synthesis of the two in the works. But I don't know how that's even possible.
It's clearly rooted in a hatred of trans people, though. Stochastic terror types aren't that likely to go try to kill Caitlyn Jenner, but maybe they think, in their twisted, deluded & incoherent mind, that random trans people on the street are all in on it, somehow. Maybe they think it'd be showing "that elite cabal" what-for if they did a little murder upon out or visible trans people. Try to send a message that "they" can't "stay in control" forever, and the "transvestigator resistance" is fighting back, via mass shootings and vigilante violence.
You're probably right. I don't want to give the impression that I'm defending these people. I just think they're a different kind of crazy. Again, they seem to believe that all cis people are trans and all trans people are cis. They're so transphobic that it loops around and they apply their transphobia to cis people.
Maybe it’s because I just woke up and can’t quite truly see what in the hells your scrawl is trying to convey, but I’d much prefer to just never be targeted by these people. I’d rather just be left alone and allowed to live a quiet life at the end of the day.
The only reason I can say I "like" EGI transvestigators is because I'm reasonably certain they will never actually target trans people. Their worldview is incompatible with most transphobes because it is so bizarre and totalizing.
To reiterate: EGI cranks seem to believe that all famous people are actually trans, including right wing politicians, and that actual trans people were cis all along. It is, for them, a completely nihilistic worldview. What could you do? They can't even be transphobic effectively. Their version of transphobia would be calling Megan Fox or Scarlet Johansson the t-slur. Which, although bad and wrong, is also absurdly funny.
Maybe I'm distanced from this by being cis(?), but also I only know about this because two trans woman made me actually laugh out loud.
No. There’s nothing funny about the t-slur. You also don’t have to worry about one of these people literally ruining your day and potentially causing you a mental breakdown. I, though mostly passing, can be clocked by this nonsense and I genuinely don’t need this shit in my life. I already have a bad enough time dealing with the psychic damage that is dysphoria. I wish I didn’t have to deal with these folk trying to apply their extreme transphobia to everyone.
Of course, it's obviously not good and I don't mean to minimize transphobia. But this very specific online cult is mostly dedicated to clocking cis celebrities. I think Bevvy is the biggest account of these, and TW here is here clock list.
I realize I'm going to hell for this, but I can't not laugh at someone who thinks all the Duggars, Eminem, Drake, 50 Cent, Dr. Dre, Bob Marley, Stallone, Usain Bolt, Trump, and Elon Musk are all trans.
Also she clocked Elliot Page as a guy before Elliot came out. That's swag.
Do you remember the title? I've heard the Transmaxxing one but not that one.
Sadly transmaxxing turned out to be mostly fake/ironic. I liked the idea that incel eggs were tricking themselves into transitioning and then realizing they were trans all along.
Makes me think about how some Imperial Japanese when they first read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion were like "Hey we need to study these Jewish guys to copy their secrets to ruling the world"