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  • Echo chamber? Maybe. Toxic? No, not at all. It's actually very freeing to be able to discuss ML stuff more deeply instead of having the umpteenth lib/ultra/trot coming in trying to debate TANKIE MAN SQUARE ONE BILLION DEATH.

    This community has been nothing but supporting to me.

    • Lemmygrad is hands down one of the most polite and inclusive online communities I've ever seen. I simply can't recall any instance where I disagreed with somebody here and we couldn't resolve it using a constructive and polite discussion. This is frankly unheard of on most social media platforms and vast majority of Lemmy instances.

    • It's actually kind of too calm for me here since most lib instances defederated from us. Having them chime in also allowed me to keep up with what they believe in currently.

      • Honestly that's why I war-drive. No more than twice a month, otherwise it runs the risk of making me spiral; but forewarned is fore-armed. Besides, I anticipate a new idiot wave now that Reddit's talking about their IPO again in tandem with selling poster data to Google.

        • I should do that too. Yogthos is also a legend.

          Unfortunately, I don't know lemmy all that well outside of the 'grad. What are some good instances to go on for that sweet, sweet lib cringe?

        • They even had the audacity to make mods be initially eligible for their IPO

          • Oh that's why I saw a headline to the tune of "redditors don't want to invest in reddit"

            • FAQ said the requirements were 200k+ karma or 5000 mod actions to directly receive the group 1 invite from u/reddit (which means you've been around long enough to see the enshittification, are a mod, or are a repost bot)

              Since Reddit will know if you received the message... here it is

              Hello,

              TL;DR: – you’re invited to a special program that lets redditors purchase stock at the same price as institutional investors when we IPO. Details about eligibility and next steps follow. This (long, dense) message has all the info we can provide due to legal restrictions.

              As you may have heard, Reddit has taken steps toward becoming a publicly traded company with the initial public filing of our registration statement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on February 22, 2024. Yes, it’s happening.

              And because you have helped make Reddit what it is today, you now have the opportunity to become Reddit owners at the same price as institutional investors.

              We’re offering a Directed Share Program (“DSP”) that invites eligible users and moderators who have contributed to Reddit to participate in our initial public offering (“IPO”). (Including you!)

              Program Requirements

              While being selected to pre-register is the first step, there are certain legal and regulatory requirements to participate in the DSP that are outside of Reddit’s control. Bear with us here…

              To be eligible for the DSP, you must:

              • Be a current U.S. resident;
              • You will be asked to provide the DSP Administrator a valid social security or permanent resident number, along with other personal information. Reddit will not have access to this data.
              • Please note that U.S. residents using a VPN may face application limitations if the VPN locates them in certain non-U.S. jurisdictions.
              • Be at least 18 years old;
              • Provide your full legal name and an email address;
              • Not be a current or former Reddit employee (FTE).

              When the DSP launches (a few weeks after pre-registration ends), individuals who have been confirmed for the program will be contacted by our external DSP Administrator. You will then be asked to provide additional information securely to the DSP Administrator to confirm your eligibility. How to pre-register

              The number of people who can participate in the DSP is limited; we will offer this opportunity to as many redditors as we are able to accommodate. If capacity is reached before the deadline, you will be added to the waitlist. Based on demand, we may also limit the number of shares available.

              If you are interested in being part of Reddit’s DSP, please go to https://reddit.com/dsp on desktop to complete the pre-registration form. If you are one of the confirmed participants, we will follow up with an email with more details in the coming weeks. You can also refer to the Frequently Asked Questions for more information. Due to regulatory restrictions (yeah… we know…), we are not able to respond to further inquiries or questions.

              Pre-registering does not guarantee that you will be invited or able to participate in the DSP; it also does not obligate you to purchase shares.

              As with any investment opportunity, you should make an individual decision based on your own personal circumstances and risk tolerance. Therefore, we urge you to review the preliminary prospectus, when available, before deciding whether to invest in Reddit.

              The deadline for pre-registering for the DSP is March 5, 2024. If capacity is reached before the deadline, you will be added to the waitlist.

              What happens next?

              While there won’t be a confirmation email immediately after you pre-register, everyone who pre-registers will receive an email in the coming weeks from “noreply@redditmail.com” telling them whether they can proceed with the next steps for the DSP.

              This is an automated message (beep, boop, beep) and does not receive replies. Please refer to the FAQ for more information. Per our lawyercats, we are not able to respond to further inquiries or questions.

              Prospectus and Important Disclosures

              The offering will be made only by means of a prospectus. When available, a copy of the preliminary prospectus related to the offering may be obtained from: Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Prospectus Department, 180 Varick Street, New York, New York 10014, or email: prospectus@morganstanley.com; Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC, Attention: Prospectus Department, 200 West Street, New York, New York 10282, telephone: 1-866-471-2526, facsimile: 212-902-9316, or email: prospectus-ny@ny.email.gs.com; J.P. Morgan Securities LLC, Attention:c/o Broadridge Financial Solutions, 1155 Long Island Avenue, Edgewood, New York 11717, telephone: 1-866-803-9204, or email: prospectus-eq_fi@jpmorgan.com; and BofA Securities, Inc., NC1-022-02-25, 201 North Tryon Street, Charlotte, North Carolina 28255-0001, Attention: Prospectus Department, telephone: 1-800-294-1322, or email: dg.prospectus_requests@bofa.com.

              A registration statement relating to these securities has been filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission but has not yet become effective. These securities may not be sold nor may offers to buy be accepted prior to the time the registration statement becomes effective. This notification shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy these securities, nor shall there be any sale of these securities in any state or jurisdiction in which such offer, solicitation, or sale would be unlawful prior to registration or qualification under the securities laws of any such state or jurisdiction.

              No offer to buy the securities can be accepted and no part of the purchase price can be received until the registration statement has become effective, and any such offer may be withdrawn or revoked, without obligation or commitment of any kind, at any time prior to the notice of its acceptance given after the effective date. An indication of interest in response to this notification will involve no obligation or commitment of any kind.

      • hm, true, we havent had an idiot wave in a while. However I find that comments have improved since we got mass defederated, weve got less libs to bully and more people to discuss with in a much more mild and cordial tone, I much prefer it that way. The pleasure of dunking on libs is temporary, the pleasure of theory and reflexion is forever.

        spoiler

        oh my god that last sentence i typed, someone please pull my jocks and hang me on a hook i'm a huge nerd michael-laugh

      • I chose grad for my account not only because it's by far the best instance, but also because I have to spend less effort muting shit communities, because they did the labour themselves by de-feding. Very cozy in here. :3

      • See, that's why I'm still on lemmy.ml

        I crave conflict. 🤤

      • I feel like libs get banned the moment I feel I might be able to get through to them.

    • It's not even really a toxic atmosphere for liberals who happen to stray in here. Sure, they'll get dogpiled if they start acting rude, or are clearly arguing in bad faith -- and they quickly find that if you can't take it, you shouldn't dish it out. But generally, the community goes out of its way to explain things even to people who disagree.

      • I'd like us to stay that way too. Almost all of us grew up with anti-communist indoctrination, and sometimes it just takes a few polite conversations to turn that around, and start them on the path.

    • Yeah aside from the biweekly struggle session it's (one of) the chillest online community I ever witnessed. Especially since we federated with the hexagons.

    • A place where ideologically-aligned people can discuss their ideology? Oh no, the horror!

      It's funny how liberals are so obsessed with things like "unity despite differences", "marketplace of ideas" and "acceptance", then turn around and label anyone they don't agree with as an "extremist" reinforcing their "hatred of others" through their "echo chambers".

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