Israeli missile has struck Iran, US officials say - BBC News
Israeli missile has struck Iran, US officials say - BBC News
Two US officials confirm strike to BBC's US partner CBS News as explosions reported near Isfahan.
An Israeli missile has hit Iran, two US officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS News.
Iranian state media is reporting that flights have been suspended over several cities, according to Associated Press.
Iran has been on high alert after Israel said it would respond to an Iranian attack against it on Saturday night
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World War 3 just what we needed. Thanks Biden.
Please explain how Israel attacking Iran is Joe Biden's fault? He said the United States would not support a retaliatory strike against Iran's retaliatory strike. All the blame falls directly on Netanyahu and the Israeli government.
The US is Israel's shield... Israel can only afford to be a belligerent bully bombing embassies because nobody wants to get involved in a war with the US. The US is enabling Israel's worst behaviors.
I have no idea what this image means.
I’ll take a stab. The picture implies that the Durstley’s enabled the bullying of their son.
You're right. Before this protection, they tried several times to wipe Israel off the map.
Nope, they didn't. Even the expression itself is the result of a deliberate mistranslation by pro-Israeli propagandists trying to bolster the completely bogus victim narrative of by far the most militarily powerful and active country in the region.
Hmm, Iran calls for it constantly. Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan tried several times. You can't just pretend history didn't happen.
Iran calls for it constantly
Do you have a credible source on that? Because propagandists keep claiming that without backing it up with actual evidence that they're not just making up whatever fits their narrative
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan tried several times.
None of them anywhere near successfully and none of them in this millennium.
You can't just pretend history didn't happen.
And you can't just greatly exaggerate decades old events and pretend that they represent an imminent and existential threat.
I mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.
An 11 year old article quoting deliberate mistranslations of the then prime minister does not an imminent, constant, and permanent threat make.
I'd say "nice try", but that would be a lie.
How about providing a source about that mistranslation?
Do you have a credible source on that? Because propagandists keep claiming that without backing it up with actual evidence that they're not just making up whatever fits their narrative
Turns out Wikipedia has a great article on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calls_for_the_destruction_of_Israel#:~:text=Ali Khamenei%2C Iran's supreme leader,of Israel from the region”.
I recommend checking the sources to verify it yourself.
None of them anywhere near successfully and none of them in this millennium.
Of course they were not successful, otherwise they would have wiped Israel off the map like their intended goal was. Also, your claim of not in this millennium is disingenuous. There are still plenty people alive to thought in those wars on both sides.
And you can't just greatly exaggerate decades old events and pretend that they represent an imminent and existential threat.
I> mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.
I didn't, that was you doing that. I was simply adding context to the person I was replying to.
Turns out Wikipedia has a great article on it:
Do you have any idea how biased an article has to be for Wikipedia to put that banner at the top of the article itself rather than just a section or somewhere on the talk page?
Also, your claim of not in this millennium is disingenuous. There are still plenty people alive to thought in those wars on both sides.
What kind of nonsense is that? By that standard, the Balkan war is still ongoing 🤦
I was simply adding context to the person I was replying
If by "adding context" you mean "repeating deliberately misleading to downright fraudulent propaganda slogans", sure.
Any information that doesn't follow your narrative is misinformation huh? That's the tactic you're going with to hide your own misinformation?
Those wars happened, those countries wanted to wipe Israel off the map. The US negotiated with them and gave most of them money to stop trying to destroy Israel. How about actually knowing history Instead of trying to come up with your own?
Any information that doesn't follow your narrative is misinformation huh? That's the tactic you're going with to hide your own misinformation?
The projection is strong with this one 🤦
Those wars happened, those countries wanted to wipe Israel off the map.
That doesn't allow Israel to slaughter Gazan civilians.
Just because I won't shed a tear when the genocidal fascist Netanyahu dies doesn't mean that he has a right to murder me, my family, all my neighbors and all the neighbors of my family.
The US negotiated with them and gave most of them money to stop trying to destroy Israel.
Bullshit. The US hasn't negotiated in good faith with a Palestinian leader since the 90s at the latest.
And even if they had, it wouldn't matter since it wouldn't stop the apartheid conditions and constant bombing that give the terrorists influence and therefore power in the first place.
How about actually knowing history Instead of trying to come up with your own?
You first, genocide apologist.
It’s like people forget that the Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on longer than the partial term that Biden has had.
Israel/Iran conflict as well. It's just no longer through Iran's proxies only.
He said the United States would not support a retaliatory strike against Iran's retaliatory strike.
A retaliatory strike just happened. What's Biden's move?
No doubt a sternly-worded press release!
Concerned and disappointed.
Well, the Biden Administration did not support it in the sense that they din't send their missiles along and no US launch infrastructure was used.
They never actually said they were against it much less they would punish Israel for it.
The use of a "we won't help doing it" fromulation in a way that can be misinterpreted as "we're against it" so that they can have plausible deniability later when it turns out they're not really against it is pretty standard doublespeak from the US Administration.
He hasn't done anything to stop Netanyahu when he has a position of unique leverage. In fact he keeps rewarding this behavior with more weapons and fighter jets.
Netanyahu takes most of the blame for being the guy but Biden has had a 100 chances in the last few months to pressure him to stop. Instead we're shoveling more coal into the fire.
He's failed utterly for 6 months to do anything to reign in Israel when their genocide is being funded by US taxpayers. He's had 6 months to yank Netanyahu's leash and he's refused so the entire time.
This ENTIRE situation is a result of US foreign policy: Its a direct consequence of Bidens failure of leadership.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid
Bruh, the one blindly defending Biden here is you. You're the one drinking the Kool Aid.
He said...
I think that is the point. So far Biden has apparently just said a bunch of words. Biden could actually do more than he is now. Instead, the genocide is continuing unabated, Israel continues to aggressively and wrecklessly escalate the regional tensions.
Come on genocide Joe, actually draw a red line and stick to it.
The mouth breather can’t explain anything. I’m sure Newsmax and Alex Jones told him all problems on Earth are Biden/The Democrats fault….
Implying that Genocide Joe is not responsible for his out of control attack dog he is actively supplying with weapons
You must be fucking confused if you think Netanyahu is Joe Biden's "attack dog". The Israeli government has spent the last 40+ years successfully coopting the United States government.
What do you think those shifty mother fuckers would be doing in an election year if he came out against them? I agree they need to he brought to heel, but if you think that is going to happen given the existing externalities of global & US politics then you are living in a fantasy.
"He has to support Genocide because israel controls US politics!"
Biden could just ban the israel lobby instead how about that.
Biden is not a dictator. "Ban the Israel lobby" - that's not who this works or how anything works.
Down voters need to take a hike. Biden and Democrats (right along side the Republicans) have done nothing but enable and embolden Bibi's genocide in Palestine, offering only lipservice and more aid for Israel while allowing Ukraine to flounder.
This is on Joe Biden. Not Trump. Deal with it you neoliberal & neoconservative apologists.
Downvoting an overly simplistic take should not be discouraged. I don't think bothsidesarethesame is fair on Democrats who want support for Ukraine to go through.
Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.
Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?
If you wanna really shut up those people bitching from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it all figured out.
Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer?
More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.
Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states? Electoral reform needs to be the number one priority for every democrat. No more waiting.
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
Biden is the number on recipient of Israeli campaign contributions.
Bothsidesarethesame is actually the case here. Bidens throwing the election in because he refuses to budge on his foreign policy positions. He's a neocon. Its like people apologizing for Biden have forgotten the previous 20 years of US history.
If Biden wants to be different, he actually has to be different.
He has supported Ukraine, unlike the previous president who wanted to give the country to Russia. How much difference should there be?
Ah yes, the apologists who insult that Biden needs to be supported blindly because the alternative is worse.
This is your war too, right along with Biden.
The alternative isn't just worse, it could destroy American democracy, NATO and more. I don't think you quite realize what's at stake here.
Bruh, what you don't seem to be fucking noticing, is that the extant option is doing all of the above.
Your blind support of Joe Biden is an endorsement of the ongoing genocide in Gaza, and signals approval of Israels widening of the conflict to include Iran and Syria.
Yesterday Biden vetoed Palestinines recognition by the UN. Not Trump. Biden.
Bid n is bad enough that Trump is a non factor at this point and you are arguing in favor of both genocide and a regional war in the middle east.
Your the one who don't seem to realize what's at stake.
Who have the Ukrainian military the first lethal weapons like the Javalin?
My dude the training and arming of Ukraine by NATO started happening before Trump came into office.
Trump tried blocking the Javelins in 2018. He wasn’t for it. He was convinced ultimately to follow longstanding US foreign policy that started before he got there.
Yes he approved it. 1 scenario where he got out of the way. Neat.
What’s his stance been since? And before?
Yes he approved it
Yes he did and Ukraine has not forgotten. While you try to gaslight, Ukraine has reminded people that Trump allowed them to defend themselves.
What has Trump said?
Let me get this straight.
After the Republican Party, largely led by Trump, have stymied aid to Ukraine and generally been pro Russia.
The motherfucker was for all intents and purposes outed as a Russian asset during congressional hearings.
Now Trump makes a politically pragmatic statement (backed up by no action or calls for his party to turn and support Ukraine) and suddenly we’re supposed to think he’s on their side?
Neuromancer you have got to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers to exist if you think you’re fooling anyone.
As well, a condition was placed on the sale of the Javelin anti-tank missiles: They could only be stored in western Ukraine, away from the conflict, to be used as a deterrent.
Yeah... okay, and threatened to withdraw support unless he helped him politically. Really lovely.
According to Catherine Croft, who served as Ukraine director at the U.S. National Security Council, Trump had viewed Ukraine as a corrupt country and believed it should pay for the weapons itself, Foreign Policy magazine reported in 2019.
As well, a condition was placed on the sale of the Javelin anti-tank missiles: They could only be stored in western Ukraine, away from the conflict, to be used as a deterrent.
Then, in 2019, Trump ordered a freeze on a $400-million package of military assistance to Ukraine that had been approved by Congress. The freeze came days before Trump's phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, where he pressured the Ukrainian leader to investigate Joe Biden, a presidential front-runner at the time, and his son Hunter Biden. It was this request that led to Trump's first impeachment.
The aid, though, was released on Sept. 11, only after a whistleblower's complaint about Trump's pressure on Ukraine had surfaced and a few days after Democrats in Congress opened the investigation.
Hm. Really sounds like support there eh.
According to Catherine Croft, who served as Ukraine director at the U.S. National Security Council, Trump had viewed Ukraine as a corrupt country and believed it should pay for the weapons itself, Foreign Policy magazine reported in 2019
The US governmenrment policy is ukraine is a corrupt country. That’s why Biden did what he did. Why Obama Wouldn’t sell weapons at all and why we’ve excluded many weapons to transfer.
That wasn’t unique to the Trump administration.
“As everyone agrees, Ukrainian Survival and Strength should be much more important to Europe than to us, but it is also important to us! GET MOVING EUROPE!”
Don't worry. EU institutions without all the countries gave more than USA to Ukraine. If you additionally consider the small EU countries, it's also a lot. So don't worry. EU gives enormous support, even though USA is the largest donor as a single country.
Black and white thinking much?
Projecting a fantasy about what US's actual foreign policy is much?
Dumb much posting much?
Much much much much?