Jill Stein paid $100,000 to a Republican consulting firm led by a suspected January 6 rioter
Jill Stein paid $100,000 to a Republican consulting firm led by a suspected January 6 rioter
The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers
The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.
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I'm sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain how this isn't what it absolutely, positively is.
Our biggest offender would, but they're currently serving a 3-day ban for Sealioning (public mod logs are awesome).
TIL there's a public mod log
Yep! And I would suggest everyone look at.
Is there a link for this?
Don't worry, he'll return 2 Lemmy soon.
Hey there! You're right.
Hi! :)
So you’re admitting to sea lioning? Bold move
Nope. But it's public that I had a 3 day ban for it. Modlogs are public, friend.
Got it. That certainly makes everthing about you make a lot more sense. And I’m not your friend.
Friend, they have said it before because it's true. They are just here to change how Americans vote in a way that leads to fascism, on purpose. If you believe that useless rules can be used to stop that, take it up with the mods. Thank youuuu!
So you don’t think rules can stop a single fascist from posting propaganda? They’ve been banned shit tons of times for it. Eventually they’ll be banned entirely.
No one takes them seriously here anyway.
I was being facetious because this motherfucker gets away with so much. This is a parody account.
[sea lion noises]
What an echo-chamber cop-out. Asking for claims to be backed up is trolling
Ah! Look what we have here, right on cue.
Yessir, reporting to defend democracy from efforts to keep candidates off ballots
Lol, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Defending democracy... By working as hard as possible to elect the guy who wants to end it!
Weird flex.
Banning political opponents from participating in an election is the end of democracy already.
Nobody is banning anyone from participating in an election. Want to be on the ballot? Follow the state rules. Otherwise, mount a write-in campaign.
Now address the fact that you are working as hard as possible to elect the guy who wants to end democracy.
Jill and every other third party candidate is banned from several state elections. Write ins arent allowed in most states.
Jill and every other third party candidate is banned from several state elections.
False. Had they simply followed state laws, they could be on the ballot or mount write-in campaigns. Only nine states entirely disallow write-in campaigns: Nevada, New Mexico, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Hawaii.
Write ins arent allowed in most states.
Again, false. Forty-one states and D.C. all allow them, but there are rules to follow to have your write-in candidacy counted.
Now again: Address the fact that you are working as hard as possible to elect the guy who wants to end democracy. I'm not going to stop asking this and let you dodge it.
Its hard to beat American intolerance isnt it. Democrats shout everyone should get along while throwing shit at multiple groups. Republicans just do the throwing shit part.
This country needs to wash the shit off their hands and learn how to actually work together for a change.
I'm with ya, brother!
"Anything to beat the 'duopoly' of political parties, even if the party is tainted by neo-fascist dark money!"
Absolutely wild mental gymnastics lol
They really want a viable third party that peddles red fascism, BSW style.
Which party isnt tainted by neo-facist dark money?
You can spare Lemmy the whataboutisms with this one. Everyone is taking a little money from everyone else, but:
Neo-fascists absolutely prefer giving to the Republican Party above all other major parties and vice versa. It's an open-and-shut case. Hardliners in the party routinely echo anything and everything that gets them brownie points from dictators and the country's most degenerate billionaires.
The Democratic Party is not perfect (Israel being the elephant in the room, but make no mistake, Bibi 100% wants Trump back in office). But if anyone is pushing back against the return of fascism the most it's the Dems. And you can see that in hostilities from Republicans and authoritarian governments alike.
The Green Party's main candidate accepted gifts from the Russian Federation through their news network RT, which is basically a propaganda machine for the government which owns them. Stein's ads openly said in 2016 that the Greens wanted Hillary to lose, fearmongering nuclear war with Russia. And this year it's the same old shit with her: just make the Dems lose.
(Side note, Sputnik hired PSL's Eugene Puryear as a long-time host. Also, PSL also has absolutely insane foreign positions. Like I'll be the first to say the West is absolutely an imperfect cultural entity, but you don't gotta just hand it to Putin or Kim Jong Un because they also have a problem with the hegemony.)
You should maybe learn a bit more about "whataboutism" because you seem to not be aware of when to apply it.
What I am saying is, if you dislike the green party because Russian money has made it into their coffers, but you won't apply the same standard to democrats, then you are a hypocritical, and your message fails in my opinion.
If you think the democrats have the strongest stance against facism, you don't understand the meaning of the word facism.
The democrats haven't moved this country away from facism meaningfully in any way. They move the country towards profit, thats it. The republicans and democrats disagree on how to profit off the worlds misery and to what extent, but both are fascists.
The irony that americans can't see how close republicans and democrats are in their intolerance and abuse of others.
Democrats: "We want to abuse non-white folk in other countries for profit!"
Republicans: "we want to abuse our own people to make profit!"
If you really think anyone who's critical of the democrats is a shill or some other bullshit, then I wish you the best but thats a childish perspective.
Probably at the stage where it turns into ‘it doesn’t matter since she won’t win anyway, this is just a protest vote to show support for third party.’
Third party that are just Russians. What a pathetic way to protest.
Nope.
Democrats: "If you don't vote for Kamala you're a Russian."
If you actively go to the polls and while you're there – instead of voting for Kamala Harris, the only viable candidate against Trump's pro-Russia fascism – you choose to vote for a Russia-planted spoiler candidate and you live in a state that's not safe red or safe blue, then yes, you are pro-Putin's regime, and you unequivocally suck ass as a person.
That's not very nice.
If you go cast your vote at the polls and you're so braindead that you can't fathom another third-party candidate is running without being a Russian agent in disguise, and you're so scared that your candidate that you've convinced yourself is a perfect deity still might lose to a lunatic, then maybe you should re-evaluate why it is that people no longer trust Democrats blindly like you think they should.
The only reason she loses is cause the peasants didn't know what was good for the economy.
And what about the huge group of people who care more about morals than money? Just fuck them? Oh no, I forgot, they are Russians right?
Do you really not see how your intolerance is exactly the same as republicans? You know you can vote democrat and still criticize them too right?
People do not like to be "nitpicked" it makes them feel bad so then they get to lash out and hurt others because they were "hurt" by being asked to correct or better themselves.
And then everyone applauds their bravery for standing up for themselves cause they want to be the bullies too. And it's easy to regard the people being told off as lesser or not people.
I think I love you a little bit more with each post. Have my upvote, brother!
Let he who hasn't dined at the same table as Putin cast the first stone.
What do you mean that's everyone but Jill?
Hey, Michael Flynn was there, too.
I guess if we consider two world leaders at the UN to be the same thing as a rando being invited to a Russia Today anniversary gala, sure.
Using your logic, Obama is a Russian agent too.
Quoting verbatim from a previous comment of mine because it's literally not worth my time to come up with something original to the same exact stupid, worthless argument:
Third-party fringe candidate who gets less than 1% of the vote having dinner with Putin, Trump’s national security advisor who was later arrested for lying to the FBI about his ties to Russia, and several major Russian political figures before an election in which Russian interference provably helped Trump win.
The US president acting in an official capacity and meeting with the leader of a major world power.
“They’re the same picture.”
Boy,
Russian botsJill Stein stans are really tripping over each other to see who’s the biggest, dumbest idiot, aren’t they?Democrat Stans really are tripping all over each other to see who's the biggest, most intolerant facist, aren't they?
most intolerant facist
Damn, you're so right. I hate faces. They make me so angry grrrrr
FUCK ALL THE FACES!
You mean the same investigation that found no evidence that Jill Stein was working with Russia? Let me guess, in your mind she's so deep and undercover that it is more about a feeling than needing any evidence at all.
"Useful idiot"
Edit: TheTechnician said it far better than I did.
Leftists: The Green Parry isn’t a throwaway vote at all! Here’s my 40 paragraph manifesto that explains it all with YouTube links and op-ed opinion pieces to validate the proof!
Found the Wumao.
Catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror?
"No you."
Compelling argument. /s
Almost as convincing as you calling a US citizen in Washington state a Chinese Government agent. Maybe if you want to be taken seriously in the future, actually provide some facts or say something productive.
I didn't call you anything, I just mocked your attempt at a PeeWee Herman defense. Maybe if you want to be taken seriously in the future you should learn how screen names work so you don't embarrass yourself.
How many alt accounts do you have? So someone says that they found the Wumao, eerily similar to comments made about black people by Democrats in the 1940s & 1950s when they were criticized, and you decide to respond when I ask the individual claiming that I'm a Chinese Government actor if they saw their own face in the mirror.
Maybe if you don't want people to find out your alt accounts stop responding from them.
Dear god, why would you think I give enough of a shit about you to have any alt accounts? Maybe see a therapist about the persecution complex and delusions of grandeur.
you decide to respond
Yeah, that's how Lemmy works. It says your account is a year old, you should have been able to figure it out by now.
Maybe don't make weak-ass arguments if you're gonna get all butthurt when people call them out.
Quick without google, what is Washington's State bird? /s we know you'll google it.
Socialists: “If you understand nuance and refuse to paint everything black or white- You support genocide!”
LMAO yep, that's pretty much the sentiment in these parts lately. And people are only gonna get meaner about it too.
You called it!
The same ones that jillsplain to everyone how her sitting there with Putin is no big deal.
You mean Shillsplain?
Even better.
Y'all literally sound as dumb as the Republicans sometimes. Its embarrassing to be associated with the democrat party these last few months I'll say.
democrat party
Hm.
I like her.
Right?! Oh wait...