Fundamental rift between US and EU opens up in Munich
Deep rift between US and EU opens up in Munich – DW – 02/15/2025
At the Munich Security Conference, the "shared values" so frequently invoked by Europeans were called into question by US Vice President JD Vance. So do the US and Europe still speak the same language?
Yeah I'd think Germany and allies have had enough experience with Nazis to not want to deal with the USA right now.
If you think Germany has learned their lesson from Nazism, I'm afraid I have to disappoint you. They are funding a genocide as we speak and obstructing justice by defying the European Court of Justice over the issue.
We see how Germany and allies handled Russia already...
US is a clown show but US grievances predate trump or maga.
How are they going to defend a remote island with 50 K population an ocean away from a hegemon, when europe can't handle Russian in its back yard in a weakened state.
Some serious cognitive dissonance
You mean how can Denmark defend Greenland against a US invasion? If the USA tried to invade that small island, the would probably take it but it would destroy relations if the USA acted with force. US based worldwide would need to be reconsidered. The bases are no there for Europe's benefit. Not to mention the trade disruption.
Trump is stupid enough to do it but it would be equally bad for both. Greenland offers no advantage to most of Europe as a whole as they are individual counties. So, the disruption would be in the after effects, not the loss of Greenland. Greenland only has significance for Trump insofar as it affects shipping rights, especially for Russia.
Europe should be doing more to combat Russia in Ukraine, I agree. However, Russia was considered an ally and trade partner by counties like Germany (even if an untrustworthy ally). Russia is struggling in Ukraine. A drawn out war is bad for Ukraine but also bad for Russia, so from Europe's point of view, not necessarily terrible, even if that is unethical.
That's a fair analysis.
However, does not have any track record on handling Russia or US in any meaningful sense of the word. How are people expecting EU to do both of these things now?
The whole thing looks like a charade. Such geo political posture requires some credibility of hard power.
You want to see hard power get into play? You want outright military threats/conflict with the EU?
Nuke yourselves.
Demonstrably, Russia can't even conquer its weakest neighbors. A bigger issue is if and when China enters the fray.
What point are you trying to make here?
Are you saying that the US has a reasonable basis upon which to undermine diplomatic ties with Germany? If so, what is that basis and how does it outweigh the benefits of continued partnership?