Woman says security guard at Liberty Hotel in Boston confronted her in bathroom, asked to prove gender
Woman says security guard at Liberty Hotel in Boston confronted her in bathroom, asked to prove gender
I don't see what the big deal is about bathrooms. I have been to bars and nightclubs and even gas stations where there is no gender assigned to the bathrooms. You have stalls and you have urinals. Anyone who only wants to pee and can do so standing up, uses the urinal. Anyone who needs to poop or wants to sit down while they pee uses the stalls. No one touches anyone else without permission and staring at anyone else's crotch in the bathroom is creepy. I know men are creepy but I would argue that they will behave themselves better when there is more traffic in and out of the bathroom. Hanging a sign that restricts gender won't keep a creep from lurking in there anyway.
Yeah, I've used the men's room before and nothing happened. I saw the urinals and realized my mistake, but when you gotta pee, you gotta pee.
I once drunkenly wandered into the women's restroom at a bar, took my piss after I couldn't find the urinals, got all the way to the washing my hands phase, me and a lady who was also minding her business locked eyes while she also washed her hands, we both triple took, then I said "ooops I'm not supposed to be here" then we both just cackled, and went about our business.
That's the end of the story, no one was upset, no one was assaulted, no one gave a single fuck and we both had a good laugh.
A mate of mine met his wife in the women's toilets
(Mens was disgusting, he nipped across, she "caught" him in there and laughed her arse off at his expression. )
That's just it, these pricks who keep throwing a fit about who uses which bathroom are really much more interested in hating transgender people than they are about protecting anyone. You can point out stats about who is actually assaulting who and how it's happening, and it won't change a thing, because protection was never the point.
The cruelty is the point.
Punishing deviation from gender norms is the point.
Nice high horse but those creeps will hate on the other cis gender as well. The article even says other women in line were criticizing – puritans and what not.
Not a new phenomenon either.
It's the same reason why there's suddenly a big deal about women's sports.
It's not about protecting women at all, since it now leads to men policing those spaces and basically demanding from women that they drop their panties to prove their sex.
And that is the actual goal, to invade women's spaces and bodies.
Why do you people assume it's only men that don't want males using female bathrooms?
There are a lot of women who also don't want males using their bathrooms.
Very location dependent. I've no issue with trans women in the women's bathrooms but I don't want men in the women's bathrooms everywhere. Clubs, parties, homes, work office even, but mostly anonymous quiet public bathrooms, no. And it's about walking in and a man or group of men being in there already, plus being followed in.
"it’s about walking in and a man or group of men being in there already, plus being followed in." A sign won't prevent that. The sign will only prevent men who care about rules and social norms from going in there. The kind of men that we all need to worry about, don't care about such things.
I understand what you're saying but I have never walked into a women's bathroom and there been any men in there ever. No matter what country or type of place I've been in.
This attitude doesn't make any sense.
If you don't want groups of men in the womens' toilets then why would you support a system that would force Trans men to use womens' toilets on a mandatory basis?
I'm not supporting that system. I think trans women should used women's bathrooms and trans men should use men's bathrooms. Where did I say different? I don't want men in women's bathrooms.
My apologies, misread your statement.
No worries, thanks for the apology.
but I don’t want men in the women’s bathrooms everywhere.
How are you going to enforce this?
I'm not, I just don't want men in there but I'm not going to enforce anything.
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize English may not be your first language. Let me clarify.
How do you think what you suggested should be enforced?
Currently having segregated bathrooms is working well enough.
That's fair.