U.S. Warns A Gaza Ceasefire Would Only Benefit Humanity
U.S. Warns A Gaza Ceasefire Would Only Benefit Humanity
WASHINGTON—Explaining why the United States would not call on Israel to end its continuous airstrikes on Palestinian civilians, the White House warned Wednesday that a ceasefire in Gaza would only serve to benefit humanity. “We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what...
“We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what everyone needs to understand is that the only people who stand to gain from halting the bombing campaign are people who deeply value human life,”
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Are there any onion stories about the other perspective? Everyday there is more of the same with a one sided view that the US and Israel are to blame for everything. Yeah... I got it and it was funny.
But if the same viewpoint is repeated often enough then it's no longer satire. Now it's obnoxious bashing.
It's satire. A genre often used to make fun of the political mainstream views.
Since the general political consensus in the west seems to be to blindly support Israel, that's the reality The Onion will be making fun of. If the US government were blindly supporting Hamas instead, you would expect The Onion to criticise that instead.
I would expect The Onion not to push any particular perspective. They are pushing one. That is not satire. That is obnoxious. If they want to be an opinion publication, they should be an opinion publication and not pretend that they haven't taken a side.
Since when is satire supposed to be neutral?
Could be satire but at this point I'm afraid it's just radicalized cynicism. And I think that's the reason why some do think it's not funny anymore. It's not healthy for anyone to really believe the world is in fact running like the Onion is implying. Yes, countries and struggles for power lead to a lot of atrocities. But in most cases not because of blatant bloodthirst and sadism of the leadership. That assumption is just crass and downright ignores the complicated reality of our world.
There is no complicated reality about cutting electricity, water, food, medical supplies and fuel from an already impoverished population.
It is a straightforward crime against humanity. And there is nothing complicated about the continued escalation of the Israeli occupation over the past decade, installing more and more settlers, driving more and more Palestinians off their land, aiding in radicalization and protecting Israeli murderer of Palestinians. Israel is bloodthirsty and sadistic in the way they treat the Palestinians.
Well, I don't think that's true either. "Israel is" is already giving away your biased view of the issue. I think there definitely is a majority among arabic as well as Israeli palestinians who'd prefer to have peace with each other and prosper. Sadly those sane people are betrayed by extremists on both sides who commit crimes while claiming it's for the best of their own population, which is clearly wrong and delayed peace since decades.
If you don't want to accept these "complications", fine. Keep your beliefs about evil occupier nation vs poor oppressed freedom fighters. I don't care.
My point was that there is imo a difference between satire and cynicism.
It's not supposed to imply that's how the world is. Swift didn't actually advocate for eating children either.
There's nothing complicated about kindness and empathy. Sociopaths have successfully convinced a lot of people in this world that it's truly a uncaring universe where everyone is fighting alone for themselves.
I didn't write a single world about empathy vor lack thereof. I do have empathy with the palestinians who suffer enormously from the attacks. I have empathy for all humans that are suffering. But empathy is not the sole category through which we can judge the actions of the POTUS of any politician. Also it's hard to tell who is empathetic and who is not. Do you have empathy for the countless Israeli families who lost relatives in the terrorist attacks?
Did I say even? Where did I say even?
I would expect The Onion not to push any particular perspective. They are pushing one. That is not satire. That is obnoxious. If they want to be an opinion publication, they should be an opinion publication and not pretend that they haven’t taken a side.
Your entire reply shows you're suggesting satire should be neutral (emphasis mine)
I said "any". Any as in one. If you have two, great. There is no implication with the word "any".
Wut
The meaning of the word implication is to give a meaning but not explicitly say it with words.
OK then?
What are they supposed to take as a balanced perspective?
There is no satire in "Hamas is a terrorist group that concluded terrible attacks on Civillians." Everyone knows that already. There is nothing to satirize.
But the West claiming Israel would make an effort to protect human life and not be deep into commiting heinous warcrimes, that is something to satirize. It is a mainstream talking point that falls apart when looked at a bit deeper and satire is among the nicest angles to do that still.
The proper angle would be for the signatories to the ICC statute to sanction the US and Israel, end all support and hand over all individuals suspect of having commited warcrimes to the ICC, respectively put out warrants on them and see to arrest them if they ever step inside their countries.
You are in a satire sub arguing something that is not satire.
Satire has a deep history with politics and is intrinsically about opinions. It's perfectly fine to disagree with their stance and views on the conflict, but that doesn't mean The Onion aren't allowed to publish satire pieces based on their writers' world views.
Sure, they can do anything they want. Only I specifically asked for anything different. The Onion lost its mojo when Trump was in power, but these ChatGPT regurgitated stories are simply not good and not at all witty. ChatGPT, FTW.
I doubt current LLM are capable of writing proper satire yet. And yeah, it can be hard to write satire after the satire you wrote 4 years ago starts to become a reality.
Don't be surprised to see a satire website focuses on the big political topic of the day. Also, some of the articles that have been posted on Lemmy were several years old.
After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016
Published November 7, 2012
Amazing.
That's interesting. I didn't realize they were older articles. I suppose the people pushing these views are perhaps mostly to blame.
Why would you expect the onion not to push a perspective? They are and always have been a leftist satire group.
Because that's neither funny nor witty.
It's explicitly political satire. If you don't find that funny then that's on you for not liking satire? It's meant to highlight the absurdity of conservative politics and conservative political ideology. That's the entire purpose of the onion.
Try to follow from the top.
Ok. And? You're still out there eating onions.
Is that what it means? 🤔
Is that what what means?
That's probably because you support Israel so it makes you angry, which would prevent you from finding it funny.
No, that's completely wrong. Sounds like you have a bias, though.
Yes I have a bias towards the victims of an ongoing apartheid.
Righto
No, jokes are funnier when they're true, and the other perspective is a lie
Sure, jokes are funny, but I wonder why comedians don't use the same material repeatedly. Why do they keep coming up with new jokes? So weird...
The Onion has never been much of one to boot-lick. The only way to believe this is a justifiable military response to terrorism to ignore historical context or believe one of the groups is inherently less valuable than the other; Both perspectives are anti-human.
Sure, but that's not relevant. It's not a news organization with a political or regional slant, right? Right??
It's obviously not a news organization. I don't see why satire can't have a message. In fact I'd say the best satire does.
There is one response worth noting in this thread.
not yours, thats for damn sure.
Oh burn
and that is..?
It's a reading exercise
Who needs Onion stories when you have the full force of the American and Israeli governments, the media establishment, corporate executives, lobby groups, and endless trolls online?
Indeed, The Onion is well established.
Deliberately missing the point, or incapable of understanding it? Truly a mystery as old as time. There's gotta be a version of Poe's Law covering this...
Wut. You'll get it one day 😉
Congrats for missing the point. Truly a potato.