We're not Trump supporters, we're just helping Trump get elected for totally leftist reasons

Least Trump bootlicking tankie.

"Biden supports [moderate centre-left policy] instead of [left-wing policy] so I'm not going to vote for him."

"Biden is too old. At least Trump is energetic."

That’s a weird way to describe genocide.
There's only a 3-year difference between them.
- But one abuses adderall, has a spray tan, and went on ozempic to seem more mentally fit and healthier.

/uj

How it -should- work and how it -is- working are two different things.

Making choices based on how it should work just means you don't understand the reality of the system. We're on a train, and saying "Maybe we should pump the brakes?" as we're barreling toward a critical junction...

I get it. I promise. But it's Donald Fucking Trump. Do you really think the "how it should be" message is helpful right now?

(Sorry, didn't realize what community I was in 😅)

/uj Can you please /uj your comment? We have a strict policy against serious leftist opinions without uj tags
- By "we" you mean "I and my other account moderating this /c"?

Actually, it is looking like Biden might be stepping down and we may get a candidate who can actually beat Trump, thanks to the pressure from the the center anti-genocide coalition.

Trying to paint Democrats and independents who are anti-genocide as tankies just isn't believable. Tankies and Russian/Israeli trolls want everyone pretending that Biden is fine and can beat Trump, they're the ones who have a vested interest in Trump winning.

What you will see, if Biden steps down, is the center (your "left") are the ones who will have ensured Trump loses.

Biden's not stepping down, I don't know where you got that notion.
- He's not guarunteed to, no, he may stay in the race, lose, and hand our government over to the far-right.
  
  But, "where I'm getting that" is from the fact that nearly every senior democrat is telling him to step down, many of them publically doing so. His own friends and allies are trying to massage him out of office. I think maybe you need to pay more attention to what's going on. Even Nancy Pelosi is indicating he needs to step aside, this from the fucking lady who clung to power well past her expiration date.
- They seem to love making shit up. It’s why they’re banned weekly from most of the other communities.
Yeah! Us people telling undecided voters in swing states that Biden can't govern are the real leftists! Biden is going to step down any minute now, and the new candidate unilaterally chosen by the DNC with no voter input will be an ally to Palestine! The antifascists are the real tankies!
- Polling has Biden losing by ten points, and no, he can't govern because he's 82 years old and in steep decline.
  
  Him stepping down would be due to undeniable and direct voter input. Voters are the ones creating pressure on him to move aside for a more functional candidate. It's you who are arguing that the will of the voters should be ignored.
Yeah and the Democrats are going to give up the race to Trump because as we know real leftists let Trump and Fascism win.
- If Biden can't step aside, yes, he's only himself to blame and those who are telling him he can do it. He's a guarunteed loss for multiple reasons, his pro-genocide position is only one facet of his failure.
I would be shocked if they try that strategy, and even more shocked if it succeeds.

Several states have already held their primary, and those states picked Joe Biden. State and local laws can vary quite a lot, and often the letter of the law is ignored for the spirit of the law.
I think that if a preponderance of voters supported it, there could be a case for the Democratic Party fielding a new candidate. However, the letter of the law may prohibit that. In fact, the letter of the law may not even cover scenarios where a candidate quits or perhaps even dies.
The reason I keep mentioning the letter of the law is because the Heritage Foundation (yup, the same one that wants to turn our oligarchy with delusions of democracy into a theocracy run by white Christian nationalists) has pre-emptively promised to bring lawsuits in every jurisdiction where this is attempted. The goal of this would be to ensure the maneuver gets stuck mid-transition. Some states will have Biden, some states will have a replacement candidate, and no matter if every single person in the U.S. voted democrat, it would be impossible to get to 270 electoral votes. Under normal turnout and voting conditions, the democrat vote would be split, and the republican would not be - a sure win for Trump, even if he would otherwise have lost. And also, I believe the house would then pick the president if 270 electoral votes cannot be reached - the same house that is currently republican controlled.

Biden dropping out would fuck the Democrats 6 ways from Sunday. Far worse than if he stays in.
Why is it that politics always feels like picking 1 of two bad options at every turn?
- Except the numbers we have don't support what you're saying. Biden is down 8-10 points versus Trump, while Harris (the most realistic nominee) is up, beating Trump by around 3 points.
  
  All the evidence points to Biden as being an all but certain loss, and replacing him being the best shot democrats have.
  
  Biden was not democratically elected to run again, he's simply the incumbent and the primary was literally canceled in many states. So we're past any arguments about whether replacing him is democratic or not, if anything the pressure from the polling is a democratic pressure, it's a reflection of how people are actually feeling in the abscence of being able to actually express that with a vote.
  
  Biden needs to step down if he wants Democrats to win. If he genuinely doesn't care about anyone but himself, he'll run.

“Don’t vote biden” is so fucken astroturf-ey, I can’t believe anyone with even a lick of sense would echo that sentiment without seeing they’re being used.

Remember to /uj leftist opinions

Fascism is a horseshoe, it exists on both the far right and left

/uj If it's on the left it isn't fascism if it's fascism it isn't the left

Lol well this certainly convinced me