Two days after the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, a motive for the 20-year-old shooter’s actions has not been identified, the FBI said — but authorities are learning more about the suspected gunman, as well as the days and moments leading up to the shots being fired.
Yeah. His family was conservative and pro-2A. Whatever the narrative is here, it isn't a left-wing thing. The way the right has a fetish for guns, no one is surprised.
I'm not saying this guy is definitely a lefty, I don't think they have enough information to say anything with a lot of confidence yet. He had a one time donation to Act Blue, which doesn't mean a lot, and he was a registered Republican, which also doesn't mean a ton either.
There are plenty of 2A lefties that own guns too, a couple of my friends are darn near progressive (US progressive, not EU progressive) and own a decent number of rifles, shotguns, and pistols. Owning a gun or multiple guns does not automatically make you a right winger, at least not in America.
I don't pretend to know what this guy was thinking though. Just saying it's still early and we don't know a ton.
Yeah so what if he registered Republican and his classmates talk at length about how conservative he was? He's probably a communist because he supposedly gave $15 once to act blue /s
His political alignment should not and does not make others of that alignment guilty. As in if he was a left or right winger, his actions do not represent a large part of the population.
Having said that, your political alignment might not make you guilty, but it could create the environment that entourages bad actions.
As in, his actions does not make gun nuts guilty but it should be a warning that those views make it easier to be a terrible person.
I haven't read any reports on what his classmates are saying. I'm not jumping to conclusions. I'm just saying it's early and there is a ton of misinformation and owning a gun or multiple guns doesn't automatically make him a right winger, it's just one data point.
We're talking past each other here. I presume I'm no less invested in keeping fascists out of office than you are. That doesn't provide any excuse not to fully inform myself, or to pretend that something is anything other than what it really is.
You're talking in context of the upcoming election. I'm talking in context of not abandoning reality. Discarding nuance because other people are irrational doesn't serve you well in the broader scheme. Let them be confidently wrong. They aren't going to care what your argument is regardless of what you say, so serve yourself better by giving things their due consideration.
We are not quite talking past each other. No, don't let them be confidently wrong. Put the argument into language they can understand. You have no hope of convincing anyone outside of your own circles with the attitude that some people are too stupid to understand.
So what argument are you making when they are acting with insufficient information and there isn't yet sufficient information to come to any actual conclusion? If it's anything other than "we don't know yet / I don't know, and neither do you" that's not grounded in reality. "I don't know" is a perfectly valid statement, but it happens a lot that people favor something definitive if flawed. That's a problem when "I don't know" is ultimately accurate, not abandoning nuance, and using language that anybody can understand. But that is essentially what the comment you replied to was saying when you said nuance isn't relevant.
I'm not saying anyone is too stupid to understand. I'm not using willful ignorance to imply an inability to understand, but rather that they simply don't know, and don't care to know.
You say, "I don't know, but-" and then you talk about how, for example, there were a lot of guns in the shooter's home and talk about American gun culture. You use it as a starting point.