'Ludicrous': Donors leave call with Kamala Harris frustrated and annoyed
'Ludicrous': Donors leave call with Kamala Harris frustrated and annoyed
The gathering of about 300 donors was meant to calm concerns but instead upset several who said it was badly organized but didn't blame Harris herself.
I'm gonna put myself in the shoe of some absurdly rich person who is donating to the Democrats who is on this call.
“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors. Your message has been heard and received. But every day that we continue this publicly chaotic conversation, we come closer to a loss — no matter who the nominee is.”
Well... I can understand feeling a little cynical about "your message has been heard." Like, has it? It doesn't feel like it has. But I do have to say, I don't see how any person could disagree with the logic that yes, talking to the media about how much Joe Biden sucks and you can't support the Democrats anymore is (a) unlikely to lead to the Democrats suddenly embracing a winning strategy and (b) going to hurt the Democrats in this election. I think the way she said it gets pretty directly to the heart of what these people need to hear.
That didn’t sit well with some on the call.
“These are donors who are not used to getting admonished and told what to do,” the source said.
Those donors can go straight off and fuck themselves. "How dare you point out that I am fucking things up, I'm too important to have to listen to that" is exactly what the DNC has been doing for years. We don't need more of it in the equation.
Those donors can go straight off and fuck themselves.
Unfortunately, they are the real power in this country. They are the king makers. Our political system is largely just a competition between two factions of wealthy elites. If not a true oligarchy, it's very oligarchic.
You’re right, we should start throwing them in the river while they bleat about how they are too important for things like that to happen to them, and then start holding publicly funded elections.
I am sure it is no coincidence that after Biden raised corporate taxes significantly and spent 2 trillion dollars on working people and climate change, they are suddenly so eager to switch to someone else (without particularly being bothered about who that other person should be and how they might fare in the election against Trump and playing up signs of weakness from the Biden side to argue for replacing him).
Hey dnc I could be wrong but maybe it’s time you stopped fucking around playing grabass and
actually fucking try to come up with a coherent, pragmatic strategy to stop the fascists from winning the election, and execute on it.
And the plan must not give a single fuck about Joe’s or Kamala’s ego if it diminishes the chances of stopping the fascists by even a fraction of a percent.
Why is this so fucking hard for them to understand?
Now I'm sure you've heard this idea before but... maybe... maybe it's because the "both sides" folks actually had a point? Specifically the point that the 2 ruling parties will defend the status quo (the status quo being a corporatocracy which itself demands an inexorable slide into fascism)?
One of your bosses in your life has probably dropped this chestnut: "this isn't a democracy."
If bosses like that ended up being in defacto control over our government, dictating policy through money, what would that look like? Would it look different than the world we're in now?
Like... It just has to be the case. DNC saying we're "fighting fascism" together but actually fighting fascism is... voters voting for Democrats? We are supposed to believe them when they say that this is a fight for freedom... only at the ballot box? Like objectively that makes no sense.
I refuse to believe the Democratic party is stupid. If we remove stupidity from the equation, then we have to come to with a different one, yeah?
I know I'm not saying anything new. I didn't come up with the idea. * I used to laugh at it*. But like, the Dems have been losing just like this for a long time. Decades now. I don't even know if i fully believe it myself. But i saw a tweet recently that i kinda agreed with. It said: If we lived in a hypothetical world where the Democratic party were in fact "controlled opposition", dedicated to stopping leftward progress and deliberately allowing a rightward shift, what would that look like?
Would it look any different than what we currently see?
Yes it does keep me up at night.
This right here. The whole message is a dud.
according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors..."
Apparently it isn't?
Well at least they're pissing off the rich donor class too. Equality at least, if not democracy
The garbage, tabloid news media in this country just can’t get enough of the views and ad revenue. Gotta keep up the constant stream of sensationalist, overly-dramatic headlines that often don’t reflect the reality of the situation.
That person and two other sources said many donors joined hoping to get an insider’s view of how to move forward in the wake of President Joe Biden’s dismal debate performance and the growing number of Democrats calling for him to drop out of the race. Instead, they said donors left the call feeling disappointed and like they had not gained any new insights or helpful information.
The call had been organized by Jen O’Malley Dillon, the chair of Biden’s campaign, and not by the campaign’s finance team, according to a source familiar with the planning. One of the sources who was on the call said that the donors who participated represented a wide range of views — some diehard Biden fans, some unconvinced about his path forward and many views in between.
“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors. Your message has been heard and received. But every day that we continue this publicly chaotic conversation, we come closer to a loss — no matter who the nominee is.”
“These are donors who are not used to getting admonished and told what to do,” the source said.
“She is on a tightrope. She has to be very careful not to alienate Biden,” Alickman said when asked about Harris praising Biden throughout the speech. “I actually would like to see Kamala at the top of the ticket. She could carry out and continue the policies of the Biden administration. I love Biden but I’m not sure he is up to the job. And, I’m worried he is going to lose against Trump.”
“I love Joe,” Newton said. “In a business context, it’s like your 81 year old salesman that’s goofed up at the convention and not making his numbers. And, you gotta go in and tell him, ‘Judy is replacing you.’ It’s no fun. But sadly that has to happen.”
Lol at 4 people downvoting quotes from the article. Do you guys even read? Embarrassing
Probably because it's a quote with no comment.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
That person and two other sources said many donors joined hoping to get an insider’s view of how to move forward in the wake of President Joe Biden’s dismal debate performance and the growing number of Democrats calling for him to drop out of the race.
The fallout from the call comes as donations to the Biden-Harris campaign and Democratic groups have plummeted and as Harris has been deployed several times to speak with donors as questions swirl over Biden’s future on the ticket.
The call with donors started with presentations from field organizers who expressed anger at the ongoing debate within the Democratic party about backing President Biden, given what they’ve seen and heard from voters on the ground, according to one source with direct knowledge of the discussion.
“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News.
Harris garnered applause at various parts of her speech talking about her and Biden’s record including advocating for the rights of the LGBTQ community.
Harris closed her speech at the event which was said to have raised $2 million by talking about her campaign manager when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
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Harris' career consists of blowing then mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown for an appointment as District Attourney, presiding over SF's descent into the status of literal shithole, and then getting DEI appointed to the position of most ineffective Vice President since Spiro Agnew.
What exactly do people expect Harris to accomplish in the last 4 months of her tenure?