One-third of Ukrainians would give up land for peace – but it’s not as simple as that.
One-third of Ukrainians would give up land for peace – but it’s not as simple as that.
All pathways to peace will need to go through Washington and Beijing.
the path Biden has set – policies that, so far, have only prevented Ukraine from losing without providing it with a path to military victory.
Hogwash.
Ukraine has a path to victory, the political collapse of Russia's top leadership or them finally running their expansive saved-up war chest and stockpiles of Soviet kit dry.
What is not a viable path to victory is some imaginary scenario where Ukraine accomplishes what Hitler and Napoleon could not, and manages to fully capitulate Russia through military might. That's woefully unrealistic and would face the nightmare of a land war in Asia, and likely Russian use of tactical nukes against enemy forces on their own land, as put forward in their own doctrine.
So, the grinding path is actually the only path, and there was never any possible Ukrainian victory scenario where this war would go for any less than several years. We are currently at two, that is not very many.
Not that Ukraine needs to pursue victory, if they wish to cede territory for peace, I understand and respect that. The decision should be theirs, though, and we should stand behind them until they make it of their own free will.
A political collapse would be a lot more like likely if Russians had to worry about bombs falling on them.
Edit: I chose my words poorly. I'm talking about things like infrastructure. Russians might support the war less if they're sitting in the dark.
Political collapse, no, not really. Strategic bombing doesn't tend to have that sort of effect, people get upset at the folks dropping the actual bombs. Economic, yes, though. They should be allowed to strike hydrocarbon and military production infrastructure.
So two thirds of the country would not give up land for peace.
Also, the reason why so few would agree to what isn't that simple is because Russia would never respect whatever peace was agreed to.
Yeah, I think the third that would capitulate are short-sighted fools. That tracks, since it seems like about a third of any population is like that.
A third of the US would probably like to bring back Jim Crow laws.
Please, read article before commenting strong opinions. Half of the country, not two thirds.
The above commenter's statement is edit technically true.
Half the country is not ready for land concessions. A third is ready for land concessions. The remainder does not have an opinion fitting those two groups neatly.
However, the statement "2/3 of the country..." Is true, as all people NOT in the 1/3 are NOT ready for land concessions.
Edit the 47-52% line represents the grey area not within the 1/3, edit and is entangled with NATO membership, which somewhat confounds the earlier 1/3 discussion.
I hate lazy journalists. 'Now Beijing’s position is now...' 'China advocates for ending the ceasefire...' !!! 🤯
Recovering the territory they lost in 2004 always seemed so far fetched considering they are defending from an attack that tried to grab even more land. I don't know much about Ukraine but it didn't look like they had any hope of getting that land back before this attack so if they could go back to the 2004 borders with some assurance of peace it would in theory be a victory for them here. Of course who knows how long this peace would last though.
All I know is, if my country had lost part of its territory and I had had nearly 20 years to put my life around after that, I probably wouldn't want to risk all my friends and family's lifes into trying to get it back. Defending from further aggression is one thing, but have people fight to restore land that was lost before they were born is another.
I just had a quick look. What territory did they lose in 2004?
I got the years confused, you can disregard my whole comment.
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