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This shows that Darwin theory failed.

Can someone tell me what Darwin theory is? Is it related to thermodynamics? Does it have something to do with the way a foot leaves an impression in a mud brick?

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Human era is predicted to begin 10k bc or something, by then human are already human. 4000 years ago is like yesterday lol.

Edit: lol, didn't realize i multiposted, sorry :/
- 10,000 BCE is just the approximate beginning of agriculture too, anatomically modern humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Even the predecessors to those anatomically modern humans were pretty damn human-looking
  
  Caveat, there was massive sea level rise around that time so early civilizations may well be older than that but we humans liked to build our early settlements next to the sea so anything older than that is going to be underwater (which is not good for preservation). iirc there are a few offshore ruins of interest that suggest there may have been older civilisations or at least some pretty impressive ceremonial sites.
- 12,000 years ago is about when we as humans decided to stop picking up our entire lives and moving on every winter.
  
  Or, possibly more accurately, when the semi permanent settlements we'd been using became permanent either because the crops we'd been working at raising started doing really well, and/or, because moving just wasn't an option anymore.
  
  About 40,000 years ago we started painting, and doing other creative things.
  
  200,000 years ago the first modern humans evolved in Africa. It took 100,000 years before we were capturing fast moving prey. Another 50 thousand to wipe out all of our bipedal competitors.
  
  First thing we did was domesticate dogs. We've found evidence of dogs being part of our tribes as early as ≈200,000 years ago. I'm honestly not sure which came first, fire or dogs.
- Homo Sapiens Sapiens (us) is generally agreed to have arrived on the world scene about 160k to 90k years ago in Africa, and genetic comparison + climate reconstruction shows that we started migrating out of Africa, first into the Middle East, about 50k to 60k years ago.
  
  So... an anatomically modern human footprint in the ME would have to be about 15x older than this one to be any kind of unexpected.
  
  Further, 4k years ago in Mesopotamia is... not unexpected at all, in two ways:
  
  1 The Sumerian civilization can be archeologically traced back almost to 4000 BCE, which is 6k years ago.
  
  2 A 4k old footprint human in mesopotamia ... is not even out of expectation for a young earth creationist, as that biblical timeline would include such people as roughly those that are supposed to have built the tower of Babel.
  
  an anatomically modern human footprint in the ME would have to be about 15x older than this one to be any kind of unexpected.
  
  And an anatomically-kinda-close footprint another order of magnitude. Honestly, the mud brick is much closer to being an anachronism than the footprint..
- I think some fundamentalist Christians believe the earth is 4000 years old only.
  
  Garbage in garbage out.
- Not if you believe the whole of earth history was 6,000 years ago.
So this argument is essentially a variant of “then why are there still monkeys?”
- Except much stupider because humans had been around for hundreds of thousands of years before that. Even if you just restrict 'humans' to our own species, we arose around 300,000 years ago.
  
  Somehow they think that because, according to an Anglican archbishop's interpretation of the Bible, the world started in 4004 BCE, this proves it.
  
  Based on the username, I don't think they use the Bible for their arguments.
  
  You've ventured into the Hindu science denial echochambers.
  
  almost as goofy as the "god exists, because look at this banana!" proof
4000 years ago humans were farming, living in cities and just starting to figure out writing.

Given how nicely centered the impression is, this was probably intentional, a very old foot selfie.
- 4000 thousand years ago?
  
  You mean 4 million years ago?
  
  Even our oldest common ancestors were only 2.2-2.5 million years ago. Homo sapiens is only about 250,000 years ago, and we basically instantly domesticated dogs. We've had dogs for 200,000 years.
If this isn't a shit post then this person has a perfectly smooth brain.
- I don't know for sure, but I think the "satt" in their name is short for sattire
  
  I doubt that. The second part of the name is the exact same word written in Hindi. And satt is a root word that means truth in hindi
4000 years ago people were already trying to make machines with gears and stuff, what the fuck are you on about?
- If you mean the Antikythera mechanism, that was more like 2000 years ago.
  
  But they had plenty of technological advancements of other sorts 4000 years ago.
  
  well gears were used I think 1000 BC in China so almost 4000 years ago?
It's the theory that a dude named Charles Darwin wrote a book back in the nineteenth century.
- FAILED!
  
  He wrote 19 books!
  
  If you know so much about him, name 10 of his books!
  
  19 books in the first century. Easy mistake to make.
Pretty sure the people who think evolution is a crock just don't understand biology, whether to shit teachers or defunct critical thinking.
- ^ This. Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Human era is predicted to begin 10k bc or something, by then human are already human. 4000 years ago is like yesterday lol.
Sattology? More like scatology
Ok... I think their point is that they think it is a fossil only 4000 years old. So it proves young earth?
- Mud impression is not fossil.
No, no, you guys don't get it - the "mud brick" was a science device used in an experiment comparing genetics and carbon dating! The top part of the brick was used to display results in a clear way - if a footprint showed up that meant that some future Darwin* guy will be full of shit. If a cock-print showed up Darwin would be correct.

*and his grandpa and thousands of years other people that debated and outlined in detail the exact same theory but could never gather enough evidence to go against the Church - I mean people bred livestock and mushed up plants to get the selected traits to their offsprings since before written language, ofc evolution was a known process (not to mention family members looking alike with same traits)
- But if we build a pyramid from this foot/cock brick, can it provide free energy?
  
  I mean, theoretically yes, sure, but how would you counter the electromagnetic fields to even get close enough to harness it?
  
  (Also if a foot/cock mud brick actually displays a foot-cock then it's bricked, you need to manually restart it, recharge it, and leave it to sundry. A footcock is an ancient predecessor of dickbutt, now sadly an extinct, lost, and long forgotten meme from dead civilisations.)
gottem
I wish I could ask them how do you think it would take for one species to evolve into two separate ones?
Human era is predicted to begin 10k bc or something, by then human are already human. 4000 years ago is like yesterday lol.

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