Riot police on standby across England and Wales for further far-right protests
Riot police on standby across England and Wales for further far-right protests
At least 25 rallies thought to be planned as religious leaders condemn attempts to sow hatred after Southport killings
I think this is what happens when mainstream political parties legitimise this kind of anti-immigrant rhetoric.
Everyone is pointing at social media, what about Sunak/Braverman/Patel? Not to mention the odious Farage.
I lay a lot of the blame at their feet.
And also - I realise it makes no sense (the perpetrator is British born!) but as has so often been said: You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. So yeah, here we are. Madness.
I left Reddit to get away from all the racist wankers and their "legitimate concerns", and now they seem to be turning up here. Great.
Lemmy is small enough that blocking them individually is an effective strategy.
I agree but I rather worry that they’ll take over here as well because more people read this and are like „wtf I’m out“. That’s what happened with me on Reddit too. I was still lurking before the blackout but it was often already kinda bad.
However now if I look at Reddit it’s no different than Facebook or instagram because I assume many mods left, and I mean those who actually cared about their community vs being in power. I think it’s bad if these „opinions“ are here, even though they get downvoted to oblivion. They will just poison the discourse.
And don’t get me wrong, plurality of opinion is very important. But Nazi bots do not play by the rules, they do not contribute to said plurality, they want to destroy it and take over any space where people exchange opinions.
I still remember what my grandfather who fought in WW2 told me: "You don't speak to nazis. You shoot nazis."
Times have changed, so I would be entirely happy with all the Nazis deported to Rwanda.
Holy shit these early comments. Who the fuck rang the bell over at Racists R Us?
It's bad faith. Mentioning facts to them is pointless, this is the result of allowing these assholes to recruit and organize for years.
Bigots never miss an opportunity
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These far right roots are rioting because of bullshit. The murderer wasn't Muslim but the fascists still used that fake pretext to stir up trouble.
Yes, I've heard about what happened and you're absolutely right. That event and that hate group sparked those riots based on misinformation. And no, all Muslims shouldn't be demonized and protested against. If anything, it's only going to worsen the situation.
I was just stating the facts about the reality in France and the UK regarding the issues they're been facing with radicalized Islamists that have been growing in numbers and causing violent agressions and terrorist attacks. It's a real issue.
This was absolutely born out of of racism and propaganda. The guy who did it is from Wales. They rioted because they were told he was an immigrant.
And yes there are bad parts in any city that harass women. That's why they prefer the bear. It has nothing to do with being an immigrant or not.
There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you're a non Muslim or if you don't follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.
No there isn't. This is just daily mail nonsense.
Source: I'm visibly gay and live in one of these famous "no go areas"
There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you're a non Muslim or if you don't follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.
Name the cities and neighborhoods or you're lying. It's possible someone mislead you, but if you repeat it without verification you're still lying.
This is like the thing conservatives said about "cities burning to the ground" because of BLM. Whenever you looked into it, it was some rando not associated with any group. Or possibly a right-wing agitator.
Stop repeating the game of telephone. You can literally go to Saudi Arabia without wearing a headscarf. You think Paris is going to be stricter?
I think it's fine to be pissed off about any religion, especially if it's bringing harm and unrest to a community/culture. Historically kind of religion's thing...
But the second anyone brings ethnicity into it...
It's thin air and racism. To argue other than that is ignorance and racism. Attacking innocent people no matter what you think a select few from their community do is racism.
I agree. That's why I think this whole situation is sad.
You write with such confidence while providing no evidence.
Hyperbolic bullshit.
The police should be worried about them "fiery but mostly peaceful protestors", not anything that is labelled as "right wing".
Ok, let's compare, shall we?
Millions of people out protesting over the murder of thousands of children in Gaza, and protesting the UK's complicity in those crimes by directly sending weapons to Israel. No crimes committed, no riots, no disorder. There were a couple who held up flags and inflammatory symbols or shouted crude slogans and they went peacefully when they were arrested.
Thousands of children murdered, peaceful protest.
In contrast, a far-right counter protest against the Palestine march in London ends with the thugs clashing with police, being violent and causing damage https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-far-right-football-hooligans-blamed-violence-pro-palestinian-march-london/
Recently, 3 girls brutally and abhorrently murdered in Southport, but EDL thugs who honestly couldn't care less about the victims and just wanted a scrap, took to the streets and torched police vehicles, injured many offers. The perpetrator ended up being a Christian, and yet the EDL mob went and targeted a mosque.
3 children murdered, outright anarchy.
EDL have proven that they're just in it for the fight. They just want blood and they don't care what the trigger is. Absolutely pathetic. They piss about in school, get bugger all in the way of grades and end up at the building site, blaming immigrants for their troubles. Spineless knobgobblers, the lot of them.
Really? It's the far right they're worried about?
I don't know anything about the situation. What should they be worried about?
Based
It's funny how indigenous population who's scared about their wellbeing is called "far-right". Focus on stabbings, rapes and other pressing issues.
Funny how there was no rage when Lucy Letby was found guilty or that guy who very recently murdered the mother and daughters with a crossbow.
indigenous population
Which ones are indigenous, the ones that came over with the Celts, the ones that came over with the Romans, the ones that came over with the Angles and Saxons, the ones that came over with the Norman French... or are we talking about the hunter-gatherers displaced by the Celts here? Do we need to test some DNA?
What about the bloody Beaker folk, eh?
What percentage of their DNA is from Homo Neanderthalensis?
Indigenous population scared about their wellbeing? Wellbeing from what? What possible threat has the indigenous population faced recently that you need to be all up in arms about it?
This is a report on Gov.uk
In 2022/23, white individuals accounted for 78% of arrests, 8% were of black individuals, 8% were of Asian individuals, 4% were of mixed ethnicity individuals and 2% were of other ethnicity individuals
In 2022, 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences were from the white ethnic group, compared to 86% of all females prosecuted
Since 2018, white defendants have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ASCL) than all other ethnic groups combined for indictable offences.
Black prisoners served the greatest proportion of their original sentence in custody.
What is your point? What are you up in arms about exactly?
Now, let's put this into perspective - https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2020/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2020
If you want to provide data, do it as a whokr, not what fits your point of view.
When you're goose-stepping around town, do you have to keep a mouth guard just in your mouth the whole time, or do you discretely pocket it until the day inevitably turns on you? I've always wanted to know and never got to talk to an actual out-and-out fascist before. Ya know, you suspect some people, but you're just brave enough to come out and say it.
But seriously, leave lemmy and don't come back. Thanks!
"scared about their well-being"
sure, buddy
It's rich coming from a country that used to colonize all across the world, displace and genocide indigenous people, exploit the country's resource, divide and conquering the people of their colony, and even deliberately causing famine. Even the decolonization aren't due to good will but simply running out of money. Now a lonewolf knife attack by an immigrant and they're bitching about their indigenous people's safety. My country were colonized by British and their divide and conquer tactic is still pretty much alive right now. Apologies for that, bitch.
Go back to reddit.
Indigenous population? Hahaha go and read some history.