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Bet you won’t ever hear him talk like that about a fellow cop getting gunned down or run over…the whole department would beat his ass.
I would take that bet in a heartbeat, especially among police, fire, military, medicine, or other PTSD-inducing fields. Such insulting, seemingly-denigrating comments would not be at all unusual at an "Irish Wake".
Stop referring to yourself and others as plebs. You're subconsciously affirming that idea as a reality.
Definition: one of the common people
Oof, what a callous asshole. That ladies comments about that guy of "We don't need you" is spot on. Someone with such casual treatment to an innocent death has no business being any where near a position of authority.
Vice president of some police officers union
He's talking to other police officers on the phone there (whilst driving, btw?) in an open and callous way that tells me that this is a common attitude with police officers there. I'd at the least check who he was talking to.
Get this fucker fired, he should not be in charge of security anywhere
I've been reading about this story but this is the first time watching the footage. Wow, that is a lot worse than I imagined. I was thinking maybe the officer just made a bad joke to help ease what just happened but this guy seems to be genuinely having a great day at work.
Its amazing that there even is a conversation about this. Such an officer would be instantly fired here.
Here is where exactly?
Right here man, I'm pointing at it
He has limited value
Meh, dark humor to get you through your day. You should hear what doctors, nurses, and paramedics say to eachother when they think nobody is listening. Take them seriously, and you'd think they are all psychopaths.
Doesn't matter man. I don't expect them to go home and cry themselves to sleep at night every night for what they see out there. They need to make dark jokes about junkies, criminals, whatever, I get it, if that's what it takes to not blow your brains out while you're out there dealing with the underbelly. But a cop negligently killed a woman and they're acting like it's NBD. The hit and this show a culture within this particular department of callous disregard for human life.
Like many jobs, you need empathy in order to do your job well, but you also need to remain detached for the sake of your mental well being. How do you balance those two things? Clearly, this officer hasn’t figured it out, but how? (That’s a rhetorical question. I’m just wondering how it’s done in an effective and healthy way, I’m not asking you specifically.)
They need to make dark jokes about junkies, criminals, whatever, I get it, if that's what it takes to not blow your brains out while you're out there dealing with the underbelly.
That's exactly what this officer is doing here: making dark jokes about a terrible situation he seems to have witnessed. He's not acting like it's NBD. He's clearly trying to cope, to come to grips with what happened, rather than blowing his brains out.
If a doctor drove nearly 50 miles per hour over the speed limit through the hospital without so much as using their horn and hit a patient, we'd be less understanding about the medical professional's gallows humor. Doctors, nurses, and paramedics actively try to help people in horrible situations and often fail and they need an outlet. Our country is experiencing a problem with cops actively trying to harm people and putting them in those horrible situations; they don't need an outlet, they need to take a step back and look at their lives.
This cop and union rep later went on to lie saying their siren was on, that Jahnavi Kandula wasn't at a pedestrian crossing, and that they were only traveling at 50 mph. It wasn't, she was, and he wasn't: he was traveling 74 mph through a 25 mph zone. https://publicola.com/tag/jaahnavi-kandula/
If a patient comes into the hospital in shock because a train ran over their legs and the receiving nurse asks "what were they even doing laying on the tracks?" And the paramedic said "it doesn't matter, they don't have a leg to stand on," then that's dark as fuck but those are two people who absolutely need whatever it takes just to get this patient out alive.
If a surgeon jokingly started all their surgeries swiping a scalpel indiscriminately over the patient like an anime hero, then one time accidentally nicked an artery and the patient bled out after which the surgeon said "they were sick anyway, plus we charge all the patients so much to pay for these little whoopsies; just cut the family a ridiculously low check," that doctor would be standing trial. If that doctor then lied saying "I yelled 'look out,' plus I think the patient lifted the operating table higher than I'm used to, and I really didn't do that fast of a swipe so I couldn't have been out of control," then those arguments would be piss-poor excuses and the fact that they're lies would prove that they knew what they did was wrong.
Do you get how one of these professionals is using humor to cope with trying to help people while the other is brushing off making corpses with humor? Like piss beading off a shit-duck's back.
Well, I'd argue that the medical professionals are not the direct cause of death of the patients and are in fact trying to help the patients survive.
This is the opposite of that.
What's the joke?
The people we kill aren't people LOL!
Let's excuse shitty behavior with more shitty behavior. Ground breaking stuff
Black humour to deal with the fact that someone has died after you attempted to save their life and black humour after explicitly taking said life are verrryyy different things. Especially if the latter person is part of an institution notorious for unwarranted taking of life.
The difference is I don't regularly hear about nurses shooting children
Exactly. This would be a non-story if you couldn't search for things like "officer body slams child" and "botched raid" find multiple different events.
If there is any karmic justice in the world then this same callousness will be shown towards you in a way that hopefully makes you reconsider your stupidity. This goes beyond sardonic coping mechanisms, and sits squarely in the camp of sociopathic behavior.
If he was intentionally displaying this behavior to the public, I would agree with you. However, every indication is that this was intended to be a private conversation with a trusted peer, and the recording was never intended to be made or published.
With that context, there is no justification for a claim of sociopathy.
