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NewPipe on Linux, Using Android_translation_layer

flathub.org Install NewPipe on Linux | Flathub

Free and lightweight YouTube frontend for Android

This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It's like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/

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NewPipe is now available on Flathub

flathub.org /apps/net.newpipe.NewPipe

Opensource @programming.dev Blaze @lemmy.zip 4 days ago

NewPipe is now available on Flathub

flathub.org /apps/net.newpipe.NewPipe

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As the rule of thumb with FOSS projects, it has a horrible name

Time to rename it to one of the very creative FOSS project names

yet another something (YAS)

something is not other thing (SINOT)

OpenSomething, FreeSomething, LibreSomething

Something<framework name>

Periodic table

Somethingify (this one is new)

Kudos to devs though. This is awesome
- KDE Advanced Something Editor (KASE)
  
  Gsomething
  
  Some random word. The worst ones I can think of are simultaneously Kleopatra and Seahorse. Guess what they do.
  
  "It's actually the name of an Indonesian fruit commonly eaten at celebrations..."
  
  Yeah it's not open source unless the title is a garbage fire.
- You forgot -XNG
- They may rename it to AITL once it releases
finally a non electron yt client, i also have another question does sober use the same method.
- https://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
  
  Thanks
- Electron apps suck and should die but for a YouTube player it seems appropriate
  
  Man Electron takes so much resources tho
- Sober uses the same method as mcpe-launcher with android minecraft
  
  Oh
Android apps on flathub will be lovely.
Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.

But that they take Newpipe... which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything...

Other apps are

OSMAnd~

OrganicMaps

Grayjay

Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid

Amethyst, Voyage

Those are really unique on Android
- I'm using NewPipe daily and it doesn't seem broken at all?
  
  You use a VPN?
- I've been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)
  
  Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB
  
  It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron
  
  But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.
  
  Grayjay is king at block circumvention
- it's worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven't been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.
  
  EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.
  
  Interesting, so the Android SELinux sandbox can work with Apparmor?
- I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.
  
  No VPN or anything, it works great.
  
  Yes with no VPN it will work easier
- Which version of Newpipe are you using? You'll want to use their latest release repository rather than the 'stable' one, that seems to make it work.
  
  I get the Nightly from Github
- Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub
  
  The OrganicMaps for "regular" Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.
- hey! don't be mean like that to my baby...
It won't show a file picker for importing subscriptions so rip
How is ATL's architecture different than Waydroid's?
- I guess it's running a free ART implémentation? As Android runs on Linux there's at least no kernel translation layer to do
Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I'm not a big fan of waydroid.
- It's still really basic, but has loads of potential, Unforunately it has a hard requirement on GTK, otherwise there are a few things that would have been nice for greater AX86 in general, for instance they have mediacodec->vaapi support, something ax86 has... struggled with in the past. but we can't use it since we can't use gtk.
  
  Ubuntu Touch can't use GTK? Why not?
This is great. This gives me hope for Linux mobile 🙏🏽
- They really shot themselves in the foot by going straight to phones.
  
  The better way would have been to work on tablets first and working out all the bugs on larger devices with a limited feature set before moving into phones with the attendant issues of regional cell bands and restrictions.
  
  tablets (especially ones that could be flashed with Linux, i.e. not iPads) are way less common than smartphones, so you get fewer devices to choose from for testing, fewer users who can run it, report bugs, and support the project, and less interest in general.
Does anyone know if this is the same way Sober is running the port of Roblox?
- No, it's the same way as how mcpe-launcher works with android minecraft
[Genuine] Okay, why when Freetube exists though?
- This is not about Newpipe itself but more that fact that this is an Android app ran on desktop Linux, without any containers like Waydroid does. This is like Wine, but for Android apps.
  
  Thanks for explaining!
- People who are used to NewPipe can use it
  
  Also this is more of a testament to Android on Linux rather than NewPipe on Linux
  
  Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining!
- FreeTube doesn't always have 4k. I don't remember which format, but a video has to be a certain format to show as 4k. Majority of videos that are shot in 4k show as only 1080p on FreeTube. I welcome new pipe to linux and will actually be using it
  
  Well, good news the newest update to Freetube now adds 4K+ support since they changed the library used to get the videos or something. I have tested it and the video says 4K and seems to be that. Feel free to correct me if you try the latest update and find any discrepancies.
I wonder how does it work? New pipe is originally a portarit application for Android.
- It translates the Android API to Linux desktop-compatible calls, just like Wine does for Windows apps.
- Newpipe works great on tablets too, a lot of Android apps have a landscape mode
Didn't work on my Arch (btw) and Fedora
- Someone on HN earlier today mentioned they would fix the Arch issues
really buggy on fedora kinoite
- Well yes, it's still early days and very much WIP. But the fact it works at all is amazing and shows what can be done with more work.
- feel you, brother
Wow

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