4B in the US anyone?

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I feel like this is probably pretty effective. I feel like it should be a thing.

It isn't. They will simply import women from other countries. And this election alone proves the fact that all women are not a monolithic group. You're not going to get a majority to follow this trend.

Given how reactionary the average Gen Z guys are, this is less of a protest and more of a self-preservation tactic.

Jokes on you, they're just going to go full Roman Empire and take twink concubines, apparently.

Because young men will have a much easier time getting laid when abortion is restricted nationwide and contraceptives are harder to get 🙄 talk about shooting yourself in the dick

I started this in 2016 in the lead up to the election. Got sterilized in 2022 after the Dobbs decision leaked. Too many guys are secret misogynists at best, and pro rape/anti-abortion at worst. The lectures I had to do to convince my ex that rape is rape, whether you fight off the perp or not.

The problem, if you look at the data, is lots of women voted for Trump too.

Me, a lesbian: Aktivsm

Given that the new agenda is to end birth control, no-fault divorce and spousal rape laws, a lot of women are about to have no say past the first one. Don't get married, and if you're in a bad marriage try to get out ASAP.

Yeah, and men who support women's right. Need to support this as well.

Seriously, look at recent events in Texas. Having sex with women while republicans are in power. It is a potential death sentence for those women.

Unless you can groove beyond doubt, one off you is infertile. And honestly, given the way some republicans are. Only trust your own eyes on the microscope when checking. Because forcing doctors to lie to women is far from beyond some of these people.

Honestly, leaving the US for a more liberal nation is the only safe option the way things are looking.

I mean, considering how many incels voted for trump, I think we're pretty much already there. Many of the young men who voted red this election already have no close relationships with any women their age. Obviously women should exercise their autonomy as they see fit. I don't expect it to change how anyone votes.

I'll probably be downvoted for this, but progressives have spent the last several years actively shutting down lines of communication with men, particularly white men. For the best of reasons, sure, but it hasn't been an effective strategy for winning elections.

Maybe this would sway some group of center-left men who didn't bother voting, but realistically I expect it will have no effect on the ongoing polarization, or exagerrate it.

It's interesting that the response to men going their own way (MGTOW) is indifference or at most pity whilst WGTOW are met with hostility.

I wonder if this results in more kids being raised in brainwashy conservative families.

White women voted for Trump so this is never going to work

Do what you want. I don't give a fuck.

Everyone in here arguing against 4b need to take a look in the mirror. The fact that so many of you are trying push against it is in itself a demonstration of why it's necessary. Respecting bodily autonomy does not have to be hard.

This just makes “incels”, who are known to be too intellectually inadequate to get a clue. I wouldn’t put it past them to vote away your right to say no first.

It won't matter when abortion is illegal and rape goes unpunished.

The future is hell for everyone.

Ciswomen were having sex?

Then wait, why are there so many incels?

Joking aside, there actually have been times when I've been at a social event and I'm gonna fuck a guy because why not... but he starts going off on incel bullshit and how far right he is because "Women aren't women" anymore, and I'm like... "Yeah I gotta go.." while thinking "Can't believe he talked his way OUT of a sure thing."

So I fully understand why there are so many incels.

blessed be the fruit

So, creating a massive headache for government ~15-20 years into the future?

Or what is the point?

i highly doubt women will just stop having sex. its as dumb as asking men to stop jerking off. just never gonna happen

Read Lysistrata and good luck to you.

When the system becomes too odious, non-participation is one way of dealing with it.

I'm fine with no sex if those Nazi men can't have any too!

Wouldn't this just create even more conservatives if they are the only ones having children? Seems counterintuitive.

Because political lesbianism has been so terribly effective at anything last time around? Short of breeding massive amounts of transphobia, of course.

How about this instead.

The no marriage part is interesting, the rest carries more unintended collateral.

As a movement, removing the institutional component would affect the wider group, and their wallets.