Straight-up BS’: Democratic chair attacks Bernie Sanders’ election critique | Sanders’ analysis that Democrats lost because they failed working-class voters scorned by party chair Jaime Harrison
Straight-up BS’: Democratic chair attacks Bernie Sanders’ election critique | Sanders’ analysis that Democrats lost because they failed working-class voters scorned by party chair Jaime Harrison
Sanders’ analysis that Democrats lost because they failed working-class voters scorned by party chair Jaime Harrison
Democrats are committed to losing and are turning towards "we gotta be more racist and transphobic".
Seth Moulton also turning on trans people and outright declaring himself transphobic after prior tweets recognising things like Trans Day of Remembrance.
https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854597079773200550
"Progressive era has to end" from Elise Jordan. When was there ever one?
No way, Democrats have to pivot more to the right, surely that help, right? …right?
It has helped exactly 0 times in the past, why wouldn't it work this time?
Liberals are losing their minds blaming everyone except their dogshit policies and strategies.
You know what, yeah I did cause the Dems to lose. And you know what, I’ll fuckin do it again in the midterms if they don’t move left.
Fuck Jaime Harrison. What a dipshit.
Harrison has reportedly chosen not to seek to stay on as DNC chair but his dismissal of Sanders’s statement provoked anger of its own, including from the reporter and columnist Glenn Greenwald. “You and the corporatist and militarist party you lead just got your ass kicked all up and down the US, because Americans see that you only care about enriching yourselves at the corporate lobbying trough,” Greenwald wrote. “If the humiliation you just suffered doesn’t usher in some humility and self-reflection, nothing will.”
-rarely do I read an article and genuinely think "man, that guy got slammed." as the rhetoric typically suggests, but wholly hell did Harrison get slammed.
And this is why I’m betting Sanders is going to found a new political party, and that this is actually the death of the DNC. And all of that is a good thing.
Sanders is 83 years old. He’s already had two opportunities to start a new party, and both times he choose to sheepdog his base to the Democratic party instead. Bernie isn’t going to be our savior.
"We have the perfect candidate lined up for 2028! We've recruited Dr.Frankenstein and in a world first we've resurrected both Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, stitched them together, and they will be the new face of the Democratic party! Vote for us or you're racist and just want Donald Trump to win!"
Is it even satire?
That's the best kind, when you get uncomfortable and say 'uhhhh... nevermind."
Quadrupling down is a bold move, DNC. Let's see if it pays off.
Can we lose to Trump a third time? We shall see!
Spoiler alert, it won't. They were already alienating their base by playing the "both sides" card.
To win against Trump all we need to do is get him on a stage in a debate with someone who treats it like a comedy club roast and just strip away any sense of 'this guy is cool and I wanna have a beer with him' used car salesman slickness. That is his only gift and saving grace. If people just dropped the suspension of disbelief for 5 seconds they'd realize he's just full of shit. Obama did this very thing and basically destroyed him and gave him an origin story. We're dealing with a 5th grader surrounded by 5th graders. If you use actual talking points you're a fucking nerd and people will make fun of you until you are nothing more than a joke. Get the dogs to turn on the top dog for 5 seconds and he's shreds. The moment he has to rely on any rational explanation they'd just pile on
"Trump is in touch with the working class, he actually just pulled a double at the paprika factory" >>>> facts
Dude you can’t just appeal to trump voters and hope to win. It hasn’t worked, it can’t work, it won’t work. You have to appeal to progressives and people who do not want money in politics. And I don’t believe the democrats will ever be willing to do that.
Nope. That will definitely not work, like at all. The Democrats can’t simply debate bro their way out of this.
Obama did this very thing and basically destroyed him and gave him an origin story
Maybe Obama destroyed Trump for you, but not for the voters who voted for Trump, or else they wouldn’t have voted for him.
If fact, the Democratic party is a joke to many petit bourgeois. And also for many working class people, because it abandoned them about 40 years ago in favor of neoliberalism, and has only further abandoned them since[1].
They're truly just humiliating themselves over and over again.
There is no home for progressives in the Democratic Party. At this point the only hope is to go independent like Sanders or join one of the third parties and abandon Democrats entirely. Democrats will never learn.
Part of the problem is Sanders is one of the rare ones and he is just too damn old.
That's why I favor building a labor party and splintering the Democrats away from their shitty party. Their party is full of people who do not belong and would be more at home in a different party, if we had a system that wasn't so unfavorable to third parties.
The only choice is to replace the Democrats as the only other party. Let all the right-wing Democrats join the Republicans and we build a new party with everyone who is left.
Seems... Impossibly hard to do though.
Which speaks to a much greater problem regarding Sanders: he dropped the chance to build a movement and parallel platform and instead just became a sheepdog for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. He was a useful lightning rod for the popularity of social spending policies and getting debt off the backs of the vast majority of people, but only served as a lightning rod, not turning it into organizing or strength. Just like Obama disassembled his electoral team to use party insiders and lose the 2010 midterms, Sanders gave away his donor list for a song and left his ground game operation hanging until they fucked off and did their own things.
This is why any turn to the Democratic party is a death knell and why we need the exact opposite approach to building the left. The heart of left strength is organizations, of people workinh to educate one another, recruit, and engage in action according to an independent political program that does not wane or falter just because one old guy capitulates to Democrats. There needs to be hundreds of people ready to replace any "important" figurehead or candidate or politician, they must be jettisonable as needed and beholden to members' will, not donors'.
I wonder how many good people are out there that just won't get into politics because they're "children of the Internet."
I'm not saying I'm worth a shit, but my Internet footprint over my life would have me destroyed if I got into politics. I try to leave as little as I can truly public of myself, but back in the Myspace days and early Facebook I was very very ignorant.
Fucking piece of shit.
He later served as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group.[4][11] His clients at the Podesta Group included banks, such as Bank of America and Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway,[12] pharmaceutical companies,[13] casinos, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, and Walmart,[14] among others.[15] In addition to lobbying work at Podesta Group, he has also lobbied on behalf of United Way Worldwide and the Association of Public and Land-grant Universities.[6]
Fun fact: 90% of Democrats quit moving towards the right before getting moderate republican support.
But on a serious note, I remember seeing a bunch of comments on Lemmy about how Trump was guaranteed to lose against Kamala and then far-right would splinter and die out and everything would be fine again, yet this is something that might actually happen to the Democrats, given how they're seemingly pointing fingers at everyone trying to find who to blame and who's responsible. I really hope they don't delude themselves into learning the wrong lessons, but it seems likely to happen.
If the DNC chair had an opinion worth considering then they already would have resigned in the disgrace everyone feels for them
The guy who lost to Lindsay Graham is lecturing others on winning strategies lmao
After what we all just witnessed it is beyond me how anyone thinks this isn’t just the system working as intended. Both the Rs and Ds worship capital. That’s the only “both sides” issue that matters to them
Let them eat cake… but remember, the cake is a lie
Let them eat cake... but remember, the cake is a lie.
Friggin' mic drop dude! This statement is amazing 👏
This is what I'm saying here, it's time to blow up the Democratic Party. It's already done like 2/3 of the work for us. Blow it up.
Yes, join a socialist organization and help delegitimate these (literal) losers and help put focus on the issues faced by working people!
If you are are still particularly interested in electoralism, then I recommend getting together with like-minded people to create a disciplined voting bloc who loudly announce that they will not vote for Dems unless a certain policy regime is adopted.
The sassy way for me to put this is that there will be no blowing up or realignments so long as you and others vote for these clowns! This is why they try to pander using PR and not policy concessions.
"Sanders you fool! The view from atop my ivory tower does not match the view you say the people who are not on the ivory tower have."
The democrats have been taking ethnic and racial minorities, women, and the working class for granted for decades. The slow erosion got faster, and now they got what they deserved. With no viable alternative on the left, they turned to the right. And now the democrats are slowly becoming the party of self-loathing white privilege, and they feel comfortable saying that it's "straight-up BS" that poor people matter. Poors, blacks, browns, and uteruses are just supposed to vote Democrat no matter what, right? That's what my privileged, white, college-educated friends tell me anyway. The dems got kicked in the teeth, and (almost) everyone's going to suffer for it.
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There's only so long you can pretend not to hear when they tell you exactly who they are.
Anyone who still claims to be against fascism and considers themselves in any way left leaning, and still supports not only democrats, but the idea that the system can somehow be reformed or fixed from within, is either in complete denial or completely full of shit (because they are neither antifascist nor left leaning).
