Meta's Threads twitter competitor is now live... what do you think?

It's Eembrace, extend, and extinguish (EEE) all over again. It has happen countless times, and will keep happening. I can't believe people still fall for it.

Meta wants to capture the twitter refugees, and they will do the same thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

No need. If I wanted corpo social media, I'd be on reddit/twitter instead of lemmy/mastodon

Fuck Meta, they are cancer.

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Fuck facebook. That all I have to say.

I think Carrot said it best.

I think I'll never knowingly use a Meta product.

Installed it, saw my feed was full of people I didn't follow, with no option to only view posts from followers, immediately uninstalled.

Once I followed people and accounts I wanted to see, their feeds automatically took over. What you saw was Meta filling the feed with something so average users don't see an empty void and give up.

Why would I leave one shit stain’s platform for another’s?

Mastodon already exists, they didn't need to bother

Not needed. We have mastodon. It has it's quirks but in the long run is much better than twitter

I'll never use a Facebook product if I can help it.

I've taken a look around and it's pretty early so not a lot of uptake. It will live or die by how many people actively use it. The built in follower base with instagram is pretty enticing. I was surprised to see a reference to the fediverse right up front. Might just be pandering, but we will see!

Use it to link back to Lemmy posts.
- Yeah, I was wondering if you could set it to just broadcast, letting people know the Fediverse is your new home now. Throw them a lifeline.

A shit product name using a generic commonly used term.

I already fell into misinterpreting a post title about it. So unnecessary.

Obviously I don't think anyone here cares for it, but most are worried on how it'll affect the fedi

Most of the fear is unfounded and it's a good thing for the overall fedi network

You can see Mastodon's CEO response on it, and I definitely agree with him. It's a good run down on the controversy, also mentioning embrace-extend-extinguish.

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/

As much as I respect the guy, I think he's being naïve in that blog post.

This guy explains very well why one should be very weary of this.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
- Yeah a whole lot of nothing new from that post. The mention of XMPP is mentioned in Mastodon's post already, and it really is an irrelevant protocol barely having users in 2006. That landscape isn't remotely the same as it is today. When you say let's talk on XMPP, what does that even mean? What app? What website? If I say let's chat over ActivityPub, I could point you to Mastodon or whatever. They're user facing, they're established, they're easy to use for normal people. It's modern day and we can clone a git repo of ActivityPub like it's nothing. People are well aware of extend-embrace-extinguish. The comparison really baffles me.
  
  Frankly I think those admins are dumb for refusing to talk to Meta so they could give them their perspective of the fedi. That was Meta actually attempting to have positive communication and was shot down.
  
  None of the comparisons in that post that are brought up are even remotely comparable to me. They are all entirely different circumstances, like trying to compare a essential tool like document rendering to an independent social network protocol?? You need that document rendering for work, you can't do your job otherwise. Mastodon can tell them to fuck off and remain on an unchanged ActivityPub with zero loss. These comparisons are not the same.

I think they’ll do quite well, it’s a perfect landing spot for Twitter refugees not willing/techie enough to take the leap to Mastodon. Y’know, the normals. Particularly if it’s well-integrated with Instagram.

Is that a good thing? Ie do I want to see Twitter fail more than I want Meta to not be successful…? That’s a fucking tricky one!

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The lack of ‘only people you follow’ tab is a huge over sight, that’s the thing I use the most because I’m rarely interested in any app’s recommendations.
- So my two theories are:
  
  This was a rushed launch to capitalize on the latest Twitter shit show and the home timeline wasn't done yet.
  
  They didn't want people to log into Threads and see nothing if none of their other follows have activated yet, so instead they force you to see everything so you don't run out of content and disengage.
  
  Either way I'd expect to see it soon.
Once I followed people and accounts I wanted to see, their feeds automatically took over. What you saw was Meta filling the feed with something so average users don’t see an empty void and give up.

A friend who signed up at the same time was seeing my activity too. If I responded to someone, he could see it and join in the conversation, and vice versa. I actually didn't how Threads took this route. I personally found it more appealing than Twitter and Mastodon when I first signed up and had nothing but an empty feed and had to go find everyone.

I think that if Apple let me install it in a walled off sandbox, away from everything else on my phone, I might give it a try, but as it is, it's not going on my phone.

for as long as their instance doesn't allowed "poop" and "bean" posting and comments, it wont gain any traction

I'm all for it if gathers up a whole bunch of basic/casual internet users and keeps them in the shallow end of the pool.

People are worried about it being an E/E/E manoeuvre but I see it as a plus happening this early - a great scenario to test and observe how federation (and defederation) works in practice and gives the whole ecosystem some experience in dealing with potentially hostile actors.

So far though, worst case is if threads turns out to be a real blight on the fediverse, then major instances with defederate them and that will be the end of it.

I found that the feed is not chronological and directly rrmoved it

If it's just another server that I can choose to follow or not, whatever, doesn't bother me. Anything that will make the fediverse better, faster is ok imo.

That being said, I do not, nor will ever trust Facebook

I installed it, looked around, and deleted it.

I’m going to stick to Bluesky, have a higher opinion of the dev team there vs Meta

I can't tell if Bluesky is any better. I mean, morally. I'm unsure myself. I'm on the waiting list for Bluesky.

There are a lot of news items about Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk still being friends and helping each other out, even to this day. I'm still trying to filter my findings to learn what is fact or fiction.

But there is a chance if one doesn't like Threads because it is owned by Meta, then using Bluesky may be a hypocritical choice. Not sure yet.
fair, i think bluesky's protocol gets some things right better than activitypub too (like account portability)

but i guess we will see which wins out C:

I’m going to stick to Bluesky, have a higher opinion of the dev team there vs Meta