POVERTY IS A FEATURE NOT A BUG

I don’t think anybody thinks that.

The world will never recover until poverty is seen not as a character flaw, but as a failure of society itself to provide for the most vulnerable.

I hate how when there is any picture of Soviet blocks it's always shot in autumn or winter when it's overcast. I live in an ex Soviet country and when these bad boys are maintained they can outperform new apartments, be it in functionality, amenities or price.

I'd gladly live in one of those apartments in the first picture if it meant that everyone could have a home

The USSR didn't do much good but those apartment buildings are definitely good. I used to live in a soviet apartment building and the funny thing about that was that every wall was a load bearing wall since all of them could hold up everything. They were thick as hell and fully concrete.

Don't worry, they've outlawed homelessness. Problem solved!

This is kinda like saying we need more farms to solve hunger.

The cost of housing is very detached from supply. For rentals, companies bought up housing and just jacked up the price, because renters are a semi captive client base.

New construction sometimes doesn’t even help, when developers knocks down an old affordable 12 unit apartment building and build a luxury 36 unit building, you’ve created -12 units of affordable housing.

Even for home buyers, they’re facing a major up hill battle going against existing home owners who have access to the capital of their current homes, and even worse corporate home buyers.

This isn’t to say supply isn’t an issue and we can ignore it, but we need to stop housing from just being an investment vehicle. Otherwise we’re just going to get garbage housing at prices no one can afford.

I don't think: "ah, buildings again. I'd rather live in camps featuring trash scent."

I understand the point. But France has done this and ended up with giant ghettos filled with si much crime that no emergency services whatsoever go there anymore.

In the US, they built giant housing projects like this where poverty was concentrated and the same thing happened. Crime installed itself in those projects and these neighbourhoods became dangerous ghettos.

Picture 1 is not the solution you think you want.

The condo building where I live is not so big. And it was built with 25% dedicated to social housing where poor families and underpaid workers can live comfortably in an apartment unit as big as my condo unit, which I paid nearly $400k CAD, for the price of about $650 CAD per month. This allows them to integrate with everyone else and live with everyone else and near where all the jobs are.

Capitalism has you thinking that these are our only options

I don't get people that have such a visceral reaction to apartments (the horror). What they write is frankly hilarious how they think. Right up there with what they write about transit (ohhh noooo) and electric stoves [sobbing noises].

Yeah, but I didn't have to pay anything for those people to live in tents. I keep my money out of their lazy hands.

/s, deeply, if it isn't obv.

never fails to amaze me how "progressive" types do a complete 180 as soon as someone mentions solving the homeless problem by giving them homes

edit: i rest my case

There is no poverty in Ba Sing Se

Pretty sure that’s just NIMBYs.

We're a crumbling empire.

Who is this society guy? He sounds stupid

Uh, the billionaires don't see that. Even the millionaires can avoid seeing that.

What is this trying to say???

Not sure why or from where this quote comes from. In germany and poland we have many such apartment houses that are very affordable

What are you talking about dude? Those are homes with doors, locks, heat, and a bed. Compared to a tent?

The presence of picture 1 in no way prevents the presence of picture 2.

To be fair new social housing looks like this:

Not enough trees and first batch was mostly single-room(as in one bedroom, one kitchen, one toilet and one bathroom in appartment), but better than humant colony.

I really like russian appartement complexs, there is always green surrounding the buildings...I hate russia though

Right, well even though San Diego might have state park beach front property, we shouldn't have a tent city filling it up. This quickly becomes unhygienic, and crime rises, among other issues.

this confused me

Is this really even a meme? Just seems like some random slice of depression.

Aren’t these basically the same picture? Like the second photo has a literal apartment building on the right of the background

This more because of the local planning in a lot of western countries. Authoritarian countries force housing through much easier

Literally to whom does this apply? Get in touch with reality.

Honestly I'd take homeless any time of the year over the culture that is fostered in those Russian type block houses. It's far worse.

More like "This doesn't exist, we're going to deal with it just one minute" 🤗

Totally true!

Oh good, more edgy agenda posts

No. The only bigger problem I have with the first image is permanence; the situation in the second picture is easier to clean up.

Whats with all the soviet propaganda in lemmy memes?

I hate both of them equally and with a vile passion. Having to share walls with other families is just as inhumane. I don't know why "Urban Sprawl" is such a looked down upon term. I'd much rather cities start as a central hub, and then urban sprawl outwards with minor hubs surrounding them every 100 miles or so.

This whole -- either everyone has to be packed like sardines, or everyone has to have 5 acres per house crap is annoying. Give the nation some medium density housing. We have the fucking internet now, half the people can work from home. You don't need to be walking-distance from everything.

North Korea have more births than South Korea, having half of population. Capitalism is a demographic failure.

As someone who lives in a former communist country, I can tell you that “commie blocks” most definitely don't fix homelessness.

oh no you've been a victim of misinformation oh dear 🙄

What a stupid snivelling American sophomoric bullshit opinion.

The bottom problem is drug addiction, not capitalism.

The top photo isn't about what it's like to fucking look at , it's about what it's like to live in.

And I can tell you that there is plenty of crime there.

The tents might actually have a better heat isolation xD

there's no worse/better they're both worse

Stupidity at its purest form: vote for socialism and leftism, and then when it destroys your city, call it capitalism. You guys come stragiht out of a comic book.

It's 100% a coincidence that more leftist cities have bigger homelessness problems. You deserve this. You voted for this. Enjoy!

And hey, I don't give two shits. I'm laughing at you.

Now i can work for myself and earn for a better home, but under communism id most likely have to live in a building like top picture