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MPs vote in favour of historic bill to allow assisted dying after emotional debate

www.bbc.co.uk Assisted dying vote live updates: MPs vote in favour of historic bill after emotional debate

The bill passes the first stage in the Commons but will be followed by months of parliamentary activity before it becomes a law.

Assisted dying vote live updates: MPs vote in favour of historic bill after emotional debate

Some progress, finally.

Edit: for the benefit of the tinfoil hat wearers, assisted dying is not the same as euthanasia.

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Wow, unexpected. Finally some boldness to be humane about end-of-life situations.
I just hope it comes with sensible checks and balances.
- The proposed law is only available to people with a terminal illness judged to have 6 months or less to live, needs to be signed off on by two doctors and a judge, and the patient needs to take the drugs themselves. If anything it's potentially too restrictive, but a step in the right direction.
- It usually does. The entire idea is to avoid suffering, not to add to it
- The main concern is turning into Canada
  
  Explain?
  
  Except this is nothing like the procedure Canada has in place.
  People seeking this out need to be terminally ill with less than 6 months to live, it needs to be approved by two doctors and a judge, I believe it has to be brought up by the patient, etc.

As an American, it is truly appalling to see MAGA Republicans on social media try to dig their nose into UK politics now. Many British were in favor of this bill, and MAGA Republicans are now calling the country satanic. I applaud the bill and hope it helps those who need it.
- Helping other people is a really difficult concept for the Make America Gilead Again cultists. I’m glad there’s still some of you with your heads on the right way.
- Meanwhile women are bleeding to death and dying slow and painful deaths from sepsis because of maga laws, butt dying with dignity without suffering is satanic
- I couldn't care less what they think of us to be honest.

This is an amazing change. I've seen way too many people suffering in a way that before my previous job, I couldn't have even begun to imagine. People in agony begging to die but being forced to live.
People that would get a few hours of interrupted sleep a day, and then spend 20 hours of the day awake living in excruciating pain, begging us to covertly put them out of their misery.

Setting the moral discussion aside. I think Starmer will be worried that this will define his first term and absorb his ministers’ bandwidth as it is being implemented. He would have wanted to focus on the economy and his plans for “rebuilding” but that will get less oxygen in the media now.

Wait, you can get assisted death after losing an emotional debate? Or can the winner also partake?

Welcomed but let's see how this progresses over the next two years before it becomes law.

Good. Less brits.

Way too many people happy about the burguese state having power to kill people
- burguese
  LMFAO 😂😂😂
  
  The muddle class.
- Way too many people relieved that they might have the possibility to end their own life to avoid suffering.
  
  Way too many people with illusions about a burguese state being preocupied with the well being of the masses
- This is giving the people more power over having the ability to gracefully end their own lives rather than the state saying people should continue to live in pain and suffering.
- bourgeois, the spelling is bourgeois.
  
  In english
- Nothing new, they always had. This isn't about that anyway

Well, that's one way to reduce, to quote Sir Starmer, "the benefits bill blighting our society".
- If you think offering people with less than 6 months to live a way to die painlessly and with dignity is actually a conspiracy to mass-murder everybody on benefits, then you are a fucking lunatic.
  You can take issue with the bill without spinning some conspiracy theory about Starmer wanting to bring about a second Holocaust.
- Thats incredibly crass and you should be ashamed of yourself
  
  The truth is often crass.

Progress? It'll progress until they use this as a way to shorten the NHS waiting list. "Would you like to suffer for three years or die instead". Or better yet, "We can't give you that, but we can euthanise you"
- Brain dead take.
  
  It's literally canada
- You are being downvoted for telling the truth. People who think the state will use this to "help" those in need have no idea how politics work
  
  In Canada it turned into a cost cutting measure. There are several instances of people being euthanised as they had no other option. Like someone with EDS being refused treatment in America, or an ex-serviceman being refused a wheelchair ramp and offered euthanasia instead.
  
  The issue isn't assisted dying, the issue is capitalists trying to destroy our healthcare system.
  My grandma got an euthanasia. She took ten years to express her will and when her backpain took all her quality of life, she ended it. It was a moment of grace and with the perspective I wouldn't have wanted her to die any other way. She was 87, lived standing, stayed openminded and present until the end, died in dignity.

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