BBC ignores Rejoin March as thousands descend on the capital
BBC ignores Rejoin March as thousands descend on the capital
"I don’t want to believe that BBC News is deliberately ignoring the enormous Rejoin EU march for any political reasons"
Not from the UK but... the damage is already done right?
I mean rejoining was always going to be inevitable, the only question is whether it's now or in 50 years, or incrementally over 50 years.
Point is, it will be on EUs terms.
It was utter stupidity. The only nation in the history of the world to impose economic sanctions on its self. The nation was lied to so a select few very rich people could make their lives easier.
Do you know what the most googled term was after the referendum? "What is the EU?"
The only nation in the history of the world to impose economic sanctions on its self
A very naïve view on how the world works. There are plenty of countries that have voted for secession, and secession will always have an economic impact.
It can only be considered stupid if there was enough information to understand the effects of the decision prior to taking it. Because of the lies and money spent on campaigns, the relevant information was tainted. Sitting on your high horse and calling people stupid is never going to convince people to change their minds.
The most googled search reference of 2016 was not “What is the EU?”. It did not even strike the top 10.
I agree Brexit was a bad decision, but two wrong don't make a right. Attacking people for being misinformed is not an intelligent choice imo.
I'm from the UK and from the North. Don't try and understand the stupidity of these people from these areas as economically developed as the worst parts of former soviet states now in the EU. These areas received a lot of EU development funding and still voted for Brexit AND the Tories (in 2019) that imposed austerity that made their post 2008 lives worse.
They are thick as mince and deserve the ridicule as much as the lying brexit politicians deserve jail time.
The only hope to not repeating the mistakes is the best quality education for as many people as possible. This hopefully enough of the smart ones from these areas are politically aware and active enough to offset the manipulation of the morons.
South west here, and it was the same here. We got so much EU funding for so many things - for a while we had the fastest broadband in the UK (yes, including London and the south east) because the EU paid for it, not to mention roads, farm subsidies, and a bunch of other "regional development fund" stuff - and now all that money is gone and the UK government haven't replaced it with anything. Brexit support here was like 60%, because too many people believed the lies.
I think ultimately what most people were really voting for in the referendum was an end to austerity and an end to top-down decisions made by faraway people who don't understand the real lives of people in these regions. The mistake they made (because of lying politicians) was that the problem was the EU, rather than our own government.
I think conservatives voting against their own interests is a very well established trope. Certainly is in Australia.
Plenty of octogenarians who vote conservative while complaining their pension is too low and they can't afford rent.
Maybe the EU’s terms will be better for UK workers and the climate.
The damage wasn't a one time thing, it's ongoing. The longer we're out the more damage that will be done.
Diplomacy is all about concessions and what each country wants. The UK can sell security and an expansion to the EU market. The biggest thing the EU sells is standards.
The stuff that is coming into the UK atm is dogshit. This sums up exactly how things are going.
But it like she says in the video. The UK are frogs in the slow boil pot. We are going to have a bad incident before people wake up. The sad part is that having a bad incident like BSE etc has long term effects. The BSE crisis of the 90 in the UK took 15 years to reverse. Unfortunately a bad incident would be a large trigger point for removing the last of the Brexiteers.
The UK will certainly be on less favourable terms than they left if they rejoin. The pound will be a hot issue. This new system that Macron wants to create is an unknown quantity. We have to wait for a change of government before we find out what it entails. The EU have shown that they want to deal more with Starmer than they do with the Tories by mentioning it at a time Starmer was visiting. It also shows that the UK has something that the EU wants, or more specifically France and Germany wants.
I would go as far as to say we need a change of population. Which we'll have in about 20/30 years once all the fuckwits from my era (I was born in 1957) have died off. Muppets in the flats where I live and my sister in law etc. are still convinced there are hundreds of thousand of immigrants queing up to rape them and take their jobs, Keir Starmer is going to turn UK into a communist annex of Russia and so on. The fact that they're retired so dont have a job, and Russia hasn't been communist for decades is neither here nor there. The Daily Mail and the like tell them so. So it must be true.
The UK can sell security
Please elaborate, because the last “security” thing I saw out of the UK was their stupid bill attempting to back door encryption as well as having vendors sit on zero days so they (and hackers out there) could exploit them. None of that would be good for the EU, let alone the world.
Rejoining isn’t necessarily inevitable. Any damage is already done and any gain from attempting to rejoin the EU within the next decade or so will be undone by the show of political instability.
Now that the UK has left, it’s better to stay out and just make do with what they have. Maybe if the government was less incompetent or more forward thinking then the UK would be able to use the fact that London is the second most important city in the world and do something actually useful or innovative.
It is true that there is no evidence of rejoining just yet. If the Tories remain in power after the next GE then the con will continue. This will mean more divergence from EU standards, with the obvious result of making it harder to rejoin. Starmer has promised closer alignment. Convergence will make the case of rejoining so much clearer and more acceptable. As I have already said, our import processes have gapping holes. If we get an incident because of this, then the case to rejoin will be complete. An attack on a country's health will change people opinions immediate effects.
To me all of this says that we need to educate previous Tory voters exactly what they are voting for, and convince more kids to vote.
As much as we love a good conspiracy centered around the BBC:
- Are they also ignoring pro Brexit rallies?
- What other outlets comparable to the BBC have covered the rally?
- Was it this rally or all pro remain rallies?
Ultimately the BBC needs to be free to make editorial decisions on its own and unless people have actual evidence of bias I'm going to say this is just Twitter conspiracy crap. But each to their own 😅.
The BBC has always fundementally been state controlled media. BBC world, which isn't readily available within the UK, has in the past done a good job of keeping up the pretence of being neutral for obvious reasons.
The current set of cunts in power have been really hamfisted and crass in their steering of the narrative. One recent example being Lineker showing the most basic level of humanity nearly getting him fired because it went against these cunts narrative. Lineker is not someone I'd count as a radical...
Many massive protests on workers rights, police brutality, climate change have got no coverage on the BBC. I think they've been pretty free in their editorial decisions, at this point it's just a dry version of gbeebies.
Thinking this is some twitter conspiracy crap is either disingenuous or you need to touch grass.
One recent example being Lineker showing the most basic level of humanity nearly getting him fired because it went against these cunts narrative. Lineker is not someone I'd count as a radical...
Lineker expressed an opinion that was political in nature. This goes against BBC rules for presenters specifically created so that all presenters can be seen to be impartial. You can argue the rule is stupid (probably correct for a sports presenter that is not involved in news) and you can argue that his opinion was correct (the HomeOffice policy is utterly shit) but if you're arguing that by applying their own impartiality rules as they were written they are somehow in hock with the government is laughably reaching into conspiracy theory land.
Thinking this is some twitter conspiracy crap is either disingenuous or you need to touch grass.
Feel free to provide some evidence that isn't "the BBC don't cover things I am interested in therefore they must be biased".
You only have to mention Lineker to show the BBC bias or the many, many other instances. As for other media, it was covered under the left wing bias.
https://leftfootforward.org/2023/09/thousands-gather-in-london-for-national-rejoin-march/
Lineker the far left radical lol, definitely the most surreal one that came to mind for me as well!
Every single protest in the entire UK complains they weren't on the news (usually to try and get on the news).
If the BBC had to report on every protest, that's all the news would be, especially as people would game the system to get themselves on the news.
So, for the BBC to report on it, it has to be newsworthy: so more than 100,000 people and for it to be about something currently affective and effective. For example, if 20,000 people marched in solidarity with Palestine, is that truly newsworthy? There's protests about Palestine all the time — how would this one be new... ...s.
Typically it takes more than 3,000 people protesting to make BBC News. And I speak as someone who previously marched through central London to remain.
You are going to have to back that up with a source. It sounds pathetically weak to me. The BBC did not even turn up. How would they know in advance how many are attending?
I have heard it mentioned on R4 in a headline so not really
O well that must be true then.