As Elon Musk Promotes Far-Right German Party, EU Politicians Suggest Shutting Off X's Algorithm
As Elon Musk Promotes Far-Right German Party, EU Politicians Suggest Shutting Off X's Algorithm
Can we get rid of twitter already?
just grow a pair and ban twitter, spacex, starlink, and tesla from operating in europe already.
there's no good reason to let them operate.
They’re mostly all national security threats, especially with Elon and Putin having a special relationship.
I mean AfD is also pro-russia AND have neo-nazi's in its ranks.
They are at 20% in polls just before the german election.
I don't think many people have as many issues as they should have with russia or they just don't care.
Tesla is getting a buttload of cash from the EU soon in climate compensation (also Volvo but not so much).
ok so people who already have teslas should be fucked? if they will be forced to stop operation, some service offerings will not be available. nice
a car isnt a political statement for everybody, for some people its a fucking tool
edit: modifying software of cars in general is highly regulated. so banning tesla would create issues for people having those cars, i would love to “homebrew” them but hey, thats fucking illegal
Just do it. Stop yapping, start doing. The hemming and hawing and trying to be proper about this shit is infuriating. They don’t play by the rules so, fuck it - pull a Brazil and yank the rug out. It worked.
Let me paraphrase a Hungarian saying in English, related to doing the bare minimum:
Thank you for going to the toilet and not taking a shit right where you were!
Do it now
Democracies have to start making laws that stop assholes like Musk from interfering in their domestic politics - including and up to imposing heavy fines, service shutdown and personal criminal liability. If a person is not a national and domiciled in that country they should have no right to influence that election through campaign contributions or any other assistance.
Musk and russia. Russia has been a far greater problem and is also behind many stupid musk takes.
Kill X already
The government is allowed to mess with cokes recipe because we don't want it to be too bad for people's health. I don't see why we shouldn't mess with algorithms to protect our personal and national health
Better to just block the site. That's less likely to degenerate into haggling and malicious compliance.
Shutting Off X's Algorithm
Hey EU, that's not how any of this works. First of all, you do not have any control over that -- even if you demand it be done, there's no way to verify compliance. Second, there's always an "algorithm." There can't not be an "algorithm;" that would mean it would display nothing at all. Even the choice to just display tweets chronologically is still a choice, and implemented in the form of an "algorithm."
What you do have the power to do -- and what you should do -- is simply just straight-up block X entirely.
Worked brilliantly for the Brazilian government. Lulu pulled the plug for... a week? BlueSky suddenly got incredibly popular. Musk panicked and folded on every demand. And the amount of pro-Bolsonaro/coup-posting on Twitter sank like a brick.
Realistically I think that is why banning him even as a brief show of force will be very effective. He understands pain, it’s the universal language.
I wouldn’t call reverse chronological order with blocks accounted for an algorithm.
Twitter didn’t always have an algorithm.
Mastodon does not have an algorithm. Or am I not being inclusive enough in my definition?
to not piss off computer scientists and mathematicians with their dear word "algorithm", you may want to narrow it down with the expression recommendation algorithms.
Even trivial sorting algorithms are still called algorithms.
An important thing to consider: Mastodon doesn't have an "algorithm" for presenting posts in your subscription feed.
That doesn't mean it "does not have an algorithm" entirely, though. There's a couple of non-trivial ones being used to recommend friends and calculate the trending posts and tags that show up on the front page, and they do actually consider likes/shares as part of scoring.
Yeah an algorithm is a series of mathematic instructions so from my armchair I'd say sort by date is not an algorithm. But to complicate things further there seems to be a sticking point with some that social media uses heuristics and not algorithms. I don't really understand the difference nor do I really care as this is all too much about semantics - /u/grue's final point is still spot on IMO. Why mess with letting a billionaire toy with the minds of your citizens? Let the USA have twitter and all that chaos to themselves.
Lets use their playbook: The only way to protect the electoion in less than 2 months, is to block Twitter and Facebook in germany completely.
Let them go to the courts, I'm sure we can find a lawyer or 2 skilled enough to draw out the process for 6-8 weeks. After that, whatever, unblock them, pay some "sorry we were wrong" money.
Then we have 4 years to solve the problem in a more permanent way.
pay some “sorry we were wrong” money
1 Euro should suffice.
Elons x needs to die
Elon
s xneeds to die
Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for a social network to be shutdown, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
Are you also going to make a freedom-of-speech comlaint over blocking malware?
freedom of speech and information
https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information
Anyway, go find your braincells.
Meta is a super invasive data harvesting tool that creates shadow profiles for non users, which is now being used to bolster authoritatarianism. If you fail to grasp thar you are either dense or malicious.
We aren't discussing Meta at all.
Fractured internet here we come
It's already here
Oh cum on! Don’t tell me you gonna try for twitter?
This is what I was worried about with tiktok being banned.
I don't have a tiktok. I don't like the concept. I won't be joining loops. I just don't like the core concept.
Now add in that it's a chinese spying tool, and I'm all the way out.
Buuuuuuut it does pose a tricky situation. Ban it, and set a precident that banning social networks is ok. Maybe they ban the fediverse next. We all know this country is run by billionaires and big business. We all know that the onlu reason tiktok is banned is because it competes with X, and Elon is basically president now.
So what stops them from banning the fediverse? Every single instance is now illegal. And since the fediverse is so unknown, it's not like there would be much pushback politically.
So. Ban the chinese spy tool, or defend net nuetrality?
