If you could move anywhere to minimize the impact on you of the worldwide rise of fascism...

Why should I leave? They're the ones who suck. I'm not giving any ground

Vietnam. Decent enough government and standard of living, and they whooped America's ass so bad that it'd be political suicide to go back there. I mean, what kind of timeline would we have to be on for someone to be stupid enough to... hmm.
Considering that fucking Greenland is caught up in it now, idk that anywhere is safe.
- Communism is kind of a red flag though
  
  You get a gold star for that.

Chatham Islands ?
I chose Tasmania, am here now.. I dont think anywhere is but i am hoping it's lesser and i am not the literal tip of the spear.
Albiet the poulation is older, white, conservative, religious so there is that problem.
- How do you like Tasmania?

Everyone saying Latin America has absolutely no clue about what Latin America is, lol. The only place safe from fascism rn is either another planet or being dead.
- As a Puerto Rican, I am very upset about all the fascism taking place in our federal government
- As a Costa Rican, I agree. Hell, we even have one of trumps deportation (concentration) camps over here
  
  I could give a ton of counter examples based only in Brazil
  
  Any plans to start saving up to move elsewhere, by the way?

Think my home country Suriname is pretty safe. Almost no one knows it exists and there's plenty of places to ride out instability

While Latin America is, overall, a good choice, it's important to recognize that the mask off fascism we are seeing from the US will only increase the meddling they already do on their "backyard", so keep that in mind.
- Was gonna say that.
  It was pretty safe in the last two world wars.
  
  If you weren't living under one of the US sponsored dictatorships, sure.

Marquesas islands. They are very large, no dangers, lot of hideouts, lot of food resources, innaccessible for wheel vehicles, almost impossible to build large bases and to urbanise (small interest for China), they are isolated from other archipelagos, and the islands have not even 10k inhabitants in total (14 islands) so no one would get interest in nuking here.
- I'm sold! Got to start learning French now.

Outer space

China obviously
- China doesn't take refugees
  
  You don't have to become a refugee, can just get a job there.
- Han chauvanism
  
  Oh no poor wasps can't feel superior living in China!

Iceland

New Zealand

Exactly where I am.
I moved to a backwater town in the middle of the desert for a fucking reason, worse comes to worst and I've got the benefit of being able to travel in literally any direction and be on res.

If we take its actual definition; far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist, countries like Cuba for sure fits the bill. Now Cuba is authoritarian (and normal since they are in permanent and genuine threat from its neighbor) and probably that is not what is in your mind. Latin America is, as many as you pointed out, no ideal... but most countries there at least lacks of a strong government to enforce things (for better or worse) so, in a turbulent world, it is indeed a better bet. I think, for the time being, Spain has proven to be resilient to authoritarianism and even the voters of "extreme" parties are not that extreme themselves! In Latin America, Mexico is proven to have an amazing leadership (today, I consider it the best worldwide) so unlikely to change overnight. Colombia, Chile and Uruguay seems promising too.
- See, when we analyze Latin America countries, one cannot think exclusively in terms of US or Europe political science. Our states may seem like weak forces when scrutinized from afar, however this is exactly the problem. Fascism has different ways of spreading through institutions and evangelical militias or drug cartels are literally everywhere. Sometimes, our states do not enforce fascism by law. They are weak on surface and extremely dangerous in their militias and affiliations with drug cartels. The contradiction is the rule around here. Mexico is not the heaven you make it sound. Do not trust a country's safety based on official governments, it is a starter error when analyzing Latin America politics
  
  A concerning example regarding what I'm saying is the fact that over Rio de Janeiro there are drug cartels which distribute cocaine packed in Israel's flag. I wish I was kidding.
  Is it because they're Jewish? They support Palestine's genocide? No, they're Christian Neopentecostal Evangelicals who apply their (unofficial but VERY real) rules based on the Bible and make money over cocaine cartels. Israel's flag is a way of showing they are God's chosen and the true governors of Rio de Janeiro.
  This is only a superficial example.
  
  I hear you! That is why I wanted to go with the definition of Fascism, but you are right. Let me rephrase it; If the world continues the path it is going, countries like Mexico seems to be a great bet to move in if you come with some good financial resources since you can compliment's government security with private methods ones (like a gated community). Mexico will likely be neutral in a global conflict. Likewise, Spain seems good because I don't see Spaniards been dragged by Brussels into any global conflict and if their American bases there get attacked, I see most people just ask to withdraw from NATO before entering in conflict themselves. Morocco, in spite I despise what they do to West Sahara's (in tents for 40 years) and its coziness with Israel, it is quite stable too... If Morocco leadership (and Spanish!) could only see how greatly they could benefit from the current situation if they both acted like Mexico... being neutral and be a beacon for skilled/affluent migrants and investment!

if teleportation is allowed, i would just telefrag putin in moscow.

We'll know what the right answer was after it passes.

Latin America. They are not aligned with NATO or Russia/China. And the level of life quality have greatly improved in later years. In fact many migrants feel cheated when coming here because they thought europe was better than it actually is in comparison.
- You are very, very wrong

Svalbard
- Considering Russia's interest in the islands, that might not be all that great of a choice.
  
  Perhaps, but Russia is already busy with a war on their front door, I dunno that they'd want to stage one at the side door too. Sure, they're interested, but realistically I don't think they'll stage a coup for it and try to force Norway out. That said, the world is upside down so who knows.
- I'm not sure I'm cut out to live in Svalbard.
  
  Fair. You asked where I would move to though lol. If it wasn't for family and job tying me here in the US I would move to Longyearbyen in a heartbeat!

The Canary Islands.
- I like tropical, and it's Spain, so part of the western world.

Where would you move to ride out a potential WWIII?
Australia. There really is no better place in the event of nuclear war. It's a continent-island, meaning easy to defend, it grows and can build just about anything, and being in the southern hemisphere it should be safe from nuclear winter.
Specifically, a rural property somewhere agricultural. Maybe Queensland or Tasmania.
If you could move anywhere to minimize the impact on you of the worldwide rise of fascism...
That's almost a different question, though. Whichever European country is the most securely democratic. There's lots of non-war ways fascism can suck aggressively.
- Peter Thiel has new Zealand citizenship, so you should be safe there. He would never allow his bunker to get jeopardized
- Yeah it might be safe from nuclear winter but it is Australia it already has 10billion other things that can easily kill you.
  
  That feeling when you survive the apocalypse only to get stung by a platypus and regret that you survived.
- Australian here, we're in the shit. A good chunk of our rural voters support the LNP (who are doing everything they can to copy Trump). Universal healthcare has been slashed down to an inch of its life, and employment prospects are terrible for most everyone under 50.
  If you're looking to escape the rise of facism, don't. Come. Here. We're lockstepping with the US and unless our upcoming election goes beautifully, we'll get even worse.
  
  Australian here. I think that's a pretty negative take.
  Our healthcare is fucking amazing. I have a young family. My wife had a complex pregnancy. The care we received was just amazing. The specialist team was the best of the best. Astonishingly professional and well credentialed. State govt paid for an apartment in Perth for 3 months so we could be near her specialist. We didn't pay a dime for any of it.
  It's true that we are sliding to the right, but less so than most other western nations. We are no where near as messed up as the US. Even France, UK, and Germany are much further right than us. We currently have a progressive government who is polling well leading into the election.
  We pretty much have full employment. I'm hiring presently. I interviewed a candidate today who I will need to offer $40 an hour instead of the $28 an hour in the award.
  Things could be better, but our quality of life is dramatically better than the average Americans.
  
  I did split the question in two.
- South America is a better place to go in a nuclear war, Australia is in NATO along with NZ, so it's a target. Can't really think of any particular targets in South America.
  
  They are not in NATO, actually. That requires proximity to the Atlantic. They're Western though, that's true. Being in a city could be a bit of a risk.
  In South America or southern Africa you're going to deal with waves of people trying to expand in from the north. No way of life escapes that unscathed. Not to mention, the projections for food scarcity on other continents aren't nearly as rosy, if there's soot in the upper atmosphere, maybe because of the higher population to start with.
  And then there's poverty as a whole separate dimension of things. Here or in Australia I'm pretty sure the capacity to build things like generators will continue. In the third world there's absolutely no guarantee.
- I would expect Australia to be important in a conflict with China, so unless you expect it not to happen, it really isn't that great.
  
  I'd expect them to stay out of it at this point, actually. They want to expand into the pacific, and the US and East Asian democracies want to stop them. Meanwhile, Australia also has affinities with now-distinct Europe, isn't directly in the way of any of that, and depends heavily on China for trade.
  And, even if it did become involved, dealing with a Chinese occupation isn't going to be as hard as a nuclear winter or the total breakdown of modern civilisation.

I think we should go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.
- All well and good until you turn up to see Farage posing with a pint.
- you'd certainly be able to have a freer conversation than on .ml
  
  hurrrr ml 🥴
  
  I'm put of the loop on this.
  I know ml are tankies but what has happened in the last few days?

Just click your heels together three times, Dorothy. You'll find all the fascism you need right in your own backyard!
- You didn't need old fascism. the real fascism was inside you all along.

I'm one of the lucky ones! Because of my service to our great country fighting against those dirty communists, when the bombs fall my family and I will be safe and sound, underground, in one of the local vaults in our area: Vault 108!
- Oh shit... I just realized that it's only a matter of time until Musk starts building vaults. Probably with a much worse name like vaultX
  
  X Dungeon
  
  He's more likely to call it Deus Vault
  
  Xault
  
  Dude that's a long since passed look at the vaults in Hawaii with zuck. I hope they choke down there. Remember they all have air filters.
  
  It will be a boring name.

I think I already live in one of the places least likely to be involved in WW3
The countryside of Brazil
In the previous two World Wars Brazil only got involved because people pressured the president to do so, otherwise we could have just sat the entire thing out.
Like, life will get shittier here too, but it is VIOLENTLY unlikely that there will be any fighting in our soil or even a draft to send soldiers to the war. (and I aggressively doubt there will be any kind of nuke-related mutually assured destruction shenanigans. The elites don't benefit from causing the apocalypse)
- Least likely to be involved... Unless Bolsonaro or any other dumbass decides it would be fun to lick Trump's ass, which is very likely to happen if they arise to power in 2026. I wouldn't be sure about that least likely remark. Also, there are ways to live in a fascist state even if it is not involved directly in a war - Getúlio Vargas is the name that comes to my mind, only to start

My crazy mom says she's looking to move to Uruguay because when the nukes start falling they will most likely not have a ton of fallout to deal with.
I'm gonna run toward the light in that kind of scenario, personally. Nature will rebuild. In a WWIII scenario, the winner is evolution. Life will, uh, find its way.
- It's five and I'm driving home again
  It's hard to believe that it's my last time
  The man on the wireless cries again
  "It's over, it's over"
  It's late and I'm with my love alone
  We drink to forget the coming storm
  We love to the sound of our favorite song
  Over and over
  Dancing, with tears in my eyes
  Weeping for the memory of a life gone by
  Dancing, with tears in my eyes
  Living out a memory of a love that died
  
  Don't you do this to me, lemmy689. Don't you hurt me with your heartfelt soliloquys and your lustful eyes
  
  When the world ends, collect your things, you're coming with me...
- Behind the Bastards had a Christmas special non-bastard episode on the Tupamaros of Uruguay and Pepe Mujica. It does seem like they have some decent politics there.
  
  Mujica might be the best politician that I saw in my life

I'm staying right here in the imperial core where I can inflict the most damage when the time comes.

Depends, are we riding out the rise of fascism or riding out WWIII? Those are two highly different scenarios.
Either way, a Pacific island sounds nice.
- Totally agree, but you really never know where would be insulated from everything
  I mean surely in the 1930s Hawaii felt like an excellent place to be insulated from war...
- Not with rising sea levels
  
  Fair. A boat anchored at a Pacific Island, while they exist.
  Maybe I'll dock at the Pacific garbage patch and distill my fuel from microplastics.
  
  Okay, Newfoundland.
- Ever read the book On the Beach?
  
  Closest I've read is Lord of the Flies.

Just teleport me to L3 and be done with it. Earth-Moon, Sun-Earth, doesn't matter.
- What or where is L3?
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_point

Snake island.

I am going to timetravel to the 1890s
- The dream of the 1890s is alive in Portland
  
  It's the dysentery, isn't it?
- The historian Zeev Sternhell has traced the ideological roots of fascism back to the 1880s and in particular to the fin de siècle theme of that time
  (Wikipedia )
  So if you could timetravel back a bit more and see if rebooting fixes this whole thing...

Bold to presume that we would want to survive it.
Fwiw Musk says that he wants to leave Earth and go to Mars, which is great news for the rest of us:-).
- To be fair, in Musk's fantasy Mars is the easier planet to live on.
- It's not. The story about mars allowed Musk to build the rockets to launch the StarLink satellites.
  Given the preparation for war with China, can we exclude that those satellites carry payloads to take down intercontinental missiles?
  Otherwise the USA could feel safe and be willing to engage in a nuclear war.

Argentina probably. Generally the southern hemisphere is pretty safe. Nobody's wasting nukes on brown people, except maybe Israel.
- Wouldn't bet on argentina. They've got their own dickhead in chief who's also waging war against progress.
  
  Yeah, it may not be the best choice, but not the worst either. They're not much of a threat to the big powers, and if they just stay out of it they'll probably come through fine.
- Argentinians are mostly white.
  
  Most Americans have no idea how historically similar the US and Argentina actually were. It's honestly weird that Argentina's similar circumstances didn't turn it into a great power like the US.

Somewhere in South America. Always wanted to go the Falklands. In reality I don't have the money for that. So I'm here on this hell ride to the bitter end.
- If the world goes to shit and the UK is fighting with Russia, would Milei try to grab the Falklands?

London. Thanks to the artefacts in the British Museum, nobody will dare to throw bombs there.
- Famously, it didn't stop the Nazis.

I’ve got a bug out zone extremely close to a bordering country that’s self sufficient. Staying put unless things get wildly out of hand. We could probably house another 2 families if needed.
- Can I call dibs?

I'm thinking NZ or AUS
- If the Americans are dumb enough to start a war with China, the Aus vasals are the first to go.
  Better not move to a city then.
  
  As an Australian, I'm often thinking about whether Russian or mandarin is the best language for me to learn. Definitely more rations for an interpreter
- You might want to wait until after the May election to see whether Australia is immune to the rise of fascism.
- nz just voted a facist goverment and australia deports migrants to islands in the middle of nowhere. no.

Most of the violence and oppression gets exported, so it's probably best to just sit tight here in the heart of the empire.
- If I were to stay in the U.S., I'd probably go to Hawaii, probably Maui or Lanai.
  
  Hawai'i will be a main base of operations for strategic command and targeted as a result. The islands are crawling with the US military and then there is the naval installation at Pearl Harbor. If I had to go with an island in the chain though, I would choose Moloka'i. That is if the locals would have me. They are more self sustaining there.

Somewhere obscure in the U.K. I’d rather struggle to survive there rather than as cannon fodder for some rich scum.

Uruguay, New Zealand, or SE Asia
- I had Uruguay and New Zealand on my list.
  
  If you go to New Zealand, you'll have to deal with the shithead billionaires there who will have moved there a few days ahead of you, (since they'll get extra warning of course), who will have moved already into the fortress-bunkers they've been making for a decade or so there.
  https://www.vice.com/en/article/billionaires-are-building-luxury-bunkers-to-escape-doomsday/
  https://www.massivemagazine.org.nz/articles/9ifugmdie5ofe1utd1bgsw4zascn61
  It should be a life mission of anyone in New Zealand, when the time comes, to find out where their air systems reach the surface and throw a few grenades down the ducts. For the good of humanity (whatever's left).

East Africa. I just like the idea.

Somewhere I won't be bothered, like Tristan da Cunha or the Pitcairn Islands

We will know the best place after whatever event happens. It’s always hard to predict these things with so many variables.

Nomadic life makes the most sense, just figure out your mode(s) of transportation.
- I've given some thought to a sailboat, as I love sailing.
  
  I was looking into boats for a moment, all the legalities were too much of a learning curve for me, but there's a lot of water out there.

I was about to say Mars, but Elon Rat plans to go there
- Mars is boring
  Choose a cooler planet like Pluto