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  • I think a lot of these people fail to realize that they aren't Fediverse material isn't because it's "complicated" or "filled with linux nerds". No, it's because they are the people the Fediverse was created to escape, fascist right-wing extremists. It is more than natural they wouldn't fit in here because that ideology isn't compatible with the federated space and working together, if it was why didn't those people build their own fediverse? I mean they tried, but not so they could connect their sites together and interoperate, only so they could try and take over our spaces, so they could try and force their messages onto us. When we blocked them and plugged our ears they gave up on Federation like that.

    So it's best to not worry too much about getting these people to join here, but rather debunking any arguments they may have against federation and its viability. The end goal isn't to get EVERYONE* to join the Fediverse, it's to get left leaning people and normies to while leaving all the extremists behind. At a point platforms like Reddit and Twitter become as insufferable as Gab or TruthSocial and the only real people there are the alt-right people.

  • Poor Nazi. Hopefully they felt really unwelcome and unsafe.

    • I was going to question what makes you think they're far right but

      If their experience is anything like mine, it’s populated by mostly far left wing Americans who were banned from Reddit for being too extreme.

      Where are the centrist and right leaning spaces? As far as I can tell, they’re almost completely empty.

      I agree, Reddit is massively extreme left politic trolls. The ones that have left reddit for lemmy because of corporealism is even further down that rabbit hole. Honestly social media is just a political psyop at this point.

      😐 God, i remember why i left reddit now. It's just a circlejerk of racists thinking they're "progressive"

      • Where are the centrist and right leaning spaces? As far as I can tell, they’re almost completely empty.

        haha oh no what a shame

      • "Social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism" - Happybadger, 2025

        They didn't specify Hexbear or Lemmygrad by name which is the normal course for a radlib from somewhere like lemmy.world when they're making this kind of post. That to me says they didn't join an instance like mine where there's an actual culture of left purity testing. I can all but guarantee they joined lemmy.ml, .world, or one of the other instances that are about as liberal as bluesky and actively recruited during the IPO-era reddit exodus. Reddit is so obscenely reactionary/libertarian that they'd be culture shocked by a lemmy instance where they can't openly say the most antisocial thing you've heard this week and get a little trophy for it.

        If anyone says that the general fediverse feed is too radical for them, it's on them to disprove they're a Nazi. They might not even consciously consider themselves a Nazi, but they're going down some pewdiepipeline. The general fediverse feed, and most of the content you'd see on an explicitly radical instance like mine, is so benign if not milquetoast liberal that you shouldn't feel this kind of opposition to it. Nothing about the instances I generally disagree with would make me want to go back to reddit on a new account. To feel ideological solidarity with

        but not any part of the fediverse is a huge red flag.

  • I mean.... he ain't exactly wrong. Lemmy IS primarily far left users at the moment. Some of them extremely left.

    Like I understand that this particular user didn't really give it a fair shake, but lets not pretend those comments are wrong about that specific aspect of Lemmy. I have observed that you generally cannot have nuanced discussions on a myriad of topics on lemmy as there is a "right" and "wrong" stance in the eyes of the majority here.

    Some of y'all are so far left that anyone even a millimeter to the right of you is seen as the second coming of Adolf himself.

    Now obviously I understand that Lemmy isn't homogeneous, but it definitely has a majority user base that leans so far left it's pretty much laying on the ground at this point.

    Thats just my 2¢ as left leaning moderate.

    • left leaning moderate

      this user is an incel-flavour repeat misogynist.

      And I would feel fairly confident that the commenter was a woman because attacking someones personality (that they don’t know at all) is typically done by women. If they don’t like something you said they tend to tell you that you have a crap personality or a tiny dick.

      So I am open to being wrong about that commenter, but I would feel comfortable putting a gentlemans bet of 1 dollar that it was left by a woman.

      It’s the constant lost progress that wears you down. You’re carrying the conversation and keeping it fun while half the women are dry and give short answers to everything because they are messaging back the 20 other guys who all matched with them that day

      I never said it was a new shitty behavior from women. It’s just that more men are aware of it now. Especially since a lot of women will post about it online and while they do get to share it with their yaaas queen slay fan base men do also see those posts. They see those comments where women are bragging about how many dates they have gone on with zero intention of actually romantically engaging with the man at any point.

      Interesting response. I take it you must be one of those women I was referring to in part of my comment somewhere.

      I definitely wouldn’t say they bring nothing to the table. It’s just that they expect you to bring a lot to the table and often times they bring little to the table. If they also didn’t expect you to bring much then it wouldn’t be so bad, but they expect it all while doing little to nothing in return.

      Dating apps and websites have overinflated women’s egos

      The average looking guy with a job and some normal hobbies is going to get very few matches where as most women get hundreds a day regardless of their level of employment or having hobbies. This leads to women believing they can find the millionaire bachelor if they just hold out for longer when in reality they are not the women that the millionaire bachelor is going to pick.

      Myself and most men I know around my age who all did very well in the dating scene when we were younger have just completely given up on dating now. We have zero interest in putting in the time, energy and money into something that yeilds nothing in return these days.

      Based on science and reality. There are endless studies that in general women are more attracted to “masculine” men. Strong looking deep voiced men. Even more so when ovulating. Same way men are hard wired for big boobs and wide hips. Monkey brain wants to make sure our offspring survive birth and are well fed.

      https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2010/12/01/fertile-women-want-macho-looking-men

      Or just Google it for yourself and read any one of the many many articles talking about the subject in various different and specific ways.

      Or just look at the men that most women are attracted to in general and see what characteristics they share.

      Why are women more attracted to abstract things that may not resemble as man at all while most men require that they at least vaguely resemble a woman?

    • I have observed that you generally cannot have nuanced discussions on a myriad of topics on lemmy as there is a "right" and "wrong" stance in the eyes of the majority here.

      Does this mean that you believe in nothing? Because I can't really interpret it any other way.

      • Im not really sure how that is the only way you interpreted what I said there...

        I believe in all sorts of things. I haven't really gotten into many political conversations on Lemmy. I have simply seen in other threads I was reading through that the grand majority has their stance and anyone that doesn't necessarily agree with that stance tends to get downvoted or banned pretty quickly. Not exactly a place of thoughtful debate. More of one group dogpiling a minority opinion until it's gone.

        Sorta like a self sustained echo chamber or something. If anyone comes in with an outside perspective the horde attacks until it's dead or leaves. Just makes most of the threads kinda boring because it's a bunch of people all agreeing on everything.

        It's fine if that's how you wanna live but I prefer talking to people I don't necessarily agree with from time to time. Expand my horizons and view topics from different perspectives. Kinda a major part of the human experience.

    • 1mm of perception.

      Lemmy: "Fucking die in a fire you fucking Nazi!"

      Watch this!

      "Trans folks are fallible human beings like the rest of us."

    • It's so hard to find a user so aware and rational like you…

    • what are some of your specific disagreements with this far left cohort?

      • Not my stances personally just other threads I have lurked in. I have just observed that in other threads there tends to be the majority that thinks A is the right answer on the given topic and if anyone drops by and says "well I don't think B is entirely incorrect" they get downvoted or banned.

        Not exactly a place for great discussion to take place.

    • I avoid news and political communities so I don't really know that the crowd is about over there. People on !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works and !gardening@lemmy.world are usually nice

      • Yeah if you avoid political subs and political topics in general Lemmy is great. But if you sort by Lemmy's version of "r/all" it's almost all political stuff and the comments are all primally unidirectional.

  • If assholes don’t like Lemmy, GOOD.

    • The main issue with this kind of posts is that it might prevent non-assholes potential new joiners to give the platform a try

      • True, but I think it’s a small price to pay. I’d rather have a smaller Lemmy that maintains the current atmosphere than a bigger Lemmy with a larger percentage of jerks.

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