Lefty Memes @lemmy.dbzer0.com AFF @beehaw.org 1 yr. ago

I see no difference

Alt text: three panels with "fossil fuel vehicles" (full of traffic),"electric vehicles" (full of traffic), "walking biking & public transit" (peaceful city with people riding bikes and trams)

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This is true. But just going from fossil to electrical vehicles will improve the air quality enormously and lower the noise a lot. It is a big improvement for city life.
- While that is all correct, I think it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of the air pollution and noise is from tires.
  
  ..and heavier EV with more torque generate more micros plastics than most cars with combustion engines. In general, biking and public transport are best.
- The sound of the ice motor is negligible compared with the one generated by the wheels trapping and pressurized air under them at higher speeds. So, unless ev vehicles came with substantial reductions on speed limits, the sound they generate isn't going to change.
  
  At high speeds yes, not in the cities. Look at Sweden limiting the speeds to 30 km/h in cities, that plus EVs will improve city life significantly.
- At the cost of destroying the earth, water and air of where the lithium mines are. But in that case the ones suffering would be poor brown people, so it's all right 😊
  
  The best solution would be no cars, yes. But it takes time to change over from car-based infrastructure, and the environment gets damaged another way. If not from lithium mining, then from mining and burning fossil fuels.
I really want cycling highways though. Like bike lanes are for commuting. Where's the lane for having fun? For cyclists, scooters, etc. 😔 this is still an unbelievably urban environment, too, and more integration of the natural environment would also be fucking nice.
Okay, but you still need lorries and cars for goods and countryside dwellers, who need access to the city as well
- Those things are still available, they’re just not the only option to the detriment of everyone else. Most people and things should be entering the city by rail, which removes the need for city destroying highways that are ever widening.
- well the first part is just plain false and the second is marginal: you can deliver things in cities by e-bike and very small electric trucks, and people on the countryside are first off like 20% of the population in almost every country but can also be served by public transport in 90% of cases.

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