Brave VS DuckDuckGo : Most Privacy Focused Search Ingine

Personally I am not a fan of brave. Between running their own crypto currency, inserting affiliate links to pages and an advert revenue share. It seems like they are trying to be a middleman to your web experience.

I have been a Firefox user since 2004ish and mainly runAdnausem and consent-o-matic to keep my web experience as clean as possible.

It is always funny to look into my Adnausem ad vault to see what people are trying to advertise to me.

Brave is a series scammer and every few days somebody seems to be posting about it on Lemmy. It's really looking like an ad campaign.
Ad Nauseum is absolutely amazing. Google even admits that by banning it from Chrome.
- It directly breaks their TOS and revenue streams. No shock of they banned it.

Using privacy and Brave in the same sentence is a quite a leap.

I just realized it 😂

Brave is an ad company. Don't use Brave.

For the record, I use SearXNG with Librewolf
- I am so curious about LibreWolf. I am gonna try it soon on my daily laptop (Linux of course 😂).

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Brendan Eich was also spewing misinformation on Covid-19 during the pandemic https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html
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The important stuff for privacy is his stance on “accidentally” injecting Brave crypto referral links into user sessions and defending it as a way to make money because he got Mozilla to use Google for cash. Eich will sell your data when he decides it’s the best way for Eich to make money. I got into a Twitter slap fight with him around then about the incongruity of his desire to track and sell users. He doesn’t care. Brave also has VC funding from non-privacy actors which means it’s only a matter of time before everything is monetized. Brave’s layoffs come as Brave is working on monetizing everything its free users do.
Same here. Mojeek is getting better, ddg because I seem to find what I need with it.

More people should give Mojeek a shot and maybe even join their forum so you can propose ideas for improvement.

I will use Firefox until the day it completely stops existing. You can pry it from my cold, dead hands. In regards to search engines, I'm using Startpage these days. I am actively looking around for something else that is free as in beer, useful, and reliable. I want to set and forget it, not constantly manage it because the instance I use is down or something.

presearch 👍
- I'll check that out thanks.
Whoogle. Try one of the public instances. They can be rate limited but not so often.
- Nice. I'll have a look.

This thread again, YAY!

I did a quick search, but I didn't find any comparison between the two, so I just asked about it.

A lot of information came out, and I reckon this thread can help someone else down the line.

Thanks for the comment though. 🤙
- I’m sorry, I shouldn’t be passive aggressive when people only want to learn. Hope you got a good answer from this thread.

Tried Brave Search and felt like it was the closest to Google Search, in terms of a modernized-feel and good UI/UX, but after reading about the company and their questionable ethics, I switched to DDG instead. I'll sacrifice my experience to avoid the more suspect company

Yes, mate. Same for me. DDG has been around for longer.

@Sterben tho this post might not be doing so but still dont get why people like to compare and pick only 1 search engine to use forever

Just use all of them. Try all. Everyone has unique needs

Each company has differences in indexing. Tho the duck is Bing based, it chose to block "russian propaganda". For something as vast as the net, using 1 engine is like using only 1 eye to see the world

For a truly open perspective, use multiple! Only for convenience's of daily searches, maybe pick one

Just use all of them.

so what you're saying is use SearXNG
- @eya Kind of. But all engines have their own unique features too
  
  Google/Startpage has quick snippets
  
  Brave has Toggles. Duckduckgo has bangs
  
  Baidu/Yandex/Naver has immense localisation
  
  Bing has OpenAI
  
  Under competition, companies will innovate. Thats what this is. Forcing Google to innovate
  
  For that we've to support them all. meta engines are good for what they are. But it cant have those extra features. Search isnt only about the results. Like how YouTube isnt *just* about the video
Actually, You are right. I am gonna do like you said. Cheers.

I'm using metager.org, because I won't trust a closed-source service like DDG or profit-driven company like Brave to not censor their search results.

I'd recommend a searxng instance.

"Yes, a security researcher revealed this week that even DuckDuckGo, which markets itself as "the internet privacy company," made an exception for its business partner Microsoft to its browser's blocking of some advertising trackers on websites, sparking accusations of betraying its purported privacy ethos."

No offense but I am not sure why people trust duckduckgo or brave. Brave for the obvious concerns with controversy surrounding their CEO. And duckduckgo for essentially being diet bing.

It's worth noting that DDG did update their policy after the blowback.

Blog post reaction
Current setup summarized
- Now I remember why I started using DDG, they are as transparent as they can be as a search engine. Thanks for sharing these useful links.
And the Duck also has a sketchy CEO

I must give props to Brave Search for its AI summarizer, which suprisingly does a pretty good job at using high quality sources from its index to give you a brief synopsis of the query.

True, I honestly like that too.

Brave is not a bad browser, but it uses Chromium under the hood. That is bad, because it supports Google's monopoly on browser rendering engines. You can either stick to Firefox, or check out LibreWolf. It's Firefox but with uBlock Origin preinstalled and all the privacy features already enabled and configured.

He's talking about search engines, not browsers.
Hey, thank you for the answer. Yes, I just switched back to FireFox. I am gonna try LibreWolf on my Linux Laptop though.
Brave is absolutely a bad browser. Brave is still very much spyware, but you can't mitigate it like you can with Firefox. Brave is an advertisement company, and has been in multiple controversies such as injecting affiliate codes into links. There is zero reason to use Brave.
- I would call it spyware, but I also wouldn't recommend it to anyone. As I mentioned, my favorite browser is LibreWolf and that's what I would suggest using to people.
OP was asking about Brave's search engine here, not the browser.
- They later specifically asked about the Brave browser.
  
  Also, what do you think about the Brave Browser?

DDG uses bing and they filter results based on their biased opinion. Just give me results let me care about the rest! Brave has a limited index, plus not a huge fan of their crypto scam. StartPage gets results from Google and seems better than the above two. But Google itself filters results so not great. tbh, to get unfiltered great results try Yandex, they do have good index and seem no or less filtering. It would be great if SearX would provide a wrapper around Yandex, but AFAIK Yandex blocks bots and non-human interactions and it is hard to add SearX support. Kagi - I don't want an extra subscription.

For now, I think SearX/Whooper instances are good enough

I use all of them, at once, with searx.

Used Brave for a bit during August and liked it (mainly their Discussions feature) but stopped using it since I always liked Startpage. I see a few mentions of Mojeek here, so I'll give it a shot

Edit: Spelling correction (shot from shit kekw)

Edit II: Mojeek's results are bad

We're always on the lookout for feedback so if you use us again or are willing to send in the searches then it really helps us improve, the Eval Page is also worth mentioning for sending us these in a more interactive way. There's a new testing algo up there currently.

I'd never get into the Brave ecosystem. Have been trialing Kagi, it's been doing on par with Google thus far but I haven't trialed it hard.

Kagi isn't FOSS or privacy focused

I use Brave Search and Firefox. But sometimes i have to use Chromium for compatibility issues although it is so rare.

I gave brave search 2 goes over some years apart. everytime I get a captcha I said f u brave. duckduck not a single captcha.

Why did you switch?

Just curiosity to be honest. But I see that there aren't many diversities between the DDG and Brave, so I may as well get back to DDG.

I primarily user Startpage and DuckDuckGo. With all the controversies surrounding it and its founder, I can't bring myself to trusting Brave.

Same here, I mostly use brave search with occasional !ecos. Although, both companies have made questionable stuff in their browsers (ddg -- not blocking m$ trackers, brave -- similar stuff with trackers, don't remember which, plus the whole affiliate link debacle).

In the end, the best thing is to use Firefox with Ads / Trackers Blocker.

Brave seems alright as a search Ingine, but its CEO looks fishy so I am not sure if I am gonna keep using it.

I trust more the DDG search ingini, brave kinda sucks ass.

At the end I switched back to DDG.

I'm using presearch.com these days and I'm rather pleased with that

Thanks, I am gonna try it.

Long time FF user, new Brave user. Turning off all the bloat in Brave makes it basically Chromium. Reason I'm switching is like FF, Brave has a self-hosted sync, however unlike Firefox, Brave has a tabbed user experience on Android tablets. If FF had that, I would not be switching.

I see where you are coming from, but at the end Firefox is just better from a privacy point of view (open source).
- Brave is also open source.