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I cared but I felt powerless to do anything besides donate to various charities helping the children of Palestine.
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The Swiss government knew as early as 1941. If we knew, the UK with their vastly better intelligence services definitely knew, and their allies probably too.
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Didn't the Swiss remain neutral during the entire war?
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Yes
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People did know about the genocide in WWII. They were flying planes over the camps. But when the soldiers arrived and took pictures the world learned the horrifying details.
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The difference is, we have the pictures now.
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It's important to remember that the pictures shouldn't matter, and that everyone, everywhere, was responsible for letting the Holocaust happen. Those that didn't fight tooth and nail, of course.
The world knew it was bad. They didn't need pictures. They didn't need Auschwitz. The information they had was bad enough. They had the proof in front of their eyes. They knew the fear. The St. Louis sailed in 1939 to the US coast with almost a thousand refugees with stories to tell. They were terrified, abused, and oppressed in Europe. But they were refused, and forced to sail home. 250 of them would die in the Holocaust.
Jewish properties had been confiscated, synagogues and businesses burned down. After Feldman's Polish father was arrested and deported to Poland her mother decided it was time to leave.
Feldman remembers her father pleading with her mother to wait for him to return but her mother was adamant and always replied: "I have to take the girls away to safety."
[...] Tearful relatives waved them off at the station in Berlin. "They knew we would never see each other again," she says softly. "We were the lucky ones - we managed to get out." She would never see her father or more than 30 other close family members again.
By early 1939, the Nazis had closed most of Germany's borders and many countries had imposed quotas limiting the number of Jewish refugees they would allow in.
By early June, Captain Schroder had no option but to turn the giant liner back towards Europe. "The joy had gone out of everything," Feldman recalls. "No-one was talking about what would happen now."
As the ship headed back across the Atlantic, six-year-old Granston kept asking his father whether they were going back to see their grandparents. His father just shook his head in silent despair.
By then, people were openly crying as they wandered the ship - one passenger even slit his wrists and threw himself overboard out of sheer desperation. "If I close my eyes, I can still hear his shrieks and see the blood," Granston says quietly.
They shouldn't have needed pictures. They shouldn't have needed the horrible little details. They knew that people were suffering and dying. Earlier that same year - February, 1939 - the Nazis sold out Madison Square Garden. Over 20,000 people rallied in support.
The world watched, as evil openly celebrated. The world watched, as hatred and fear were used as weapons against the innocent, and entire peoples were rounded up, forced from their homes, starved, and slowly but surely killed. Just because the information stopped at the gates of Auschwitz doesn't mean they were blind to the horrors outside the camps.
All that matters is that good men did nothing.
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"People did know"
"But then people knew more than that".
You just now.
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Why are you saying that is if it's contradictory? I know that Russia invaded Ukraine. I can see the horrifying details by watching drone videos. I can know something generally without knowing the details
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They 100% knew about the Holocaust and as a Jewish person its extremely telling. Anyone who isnt actively calling out the genocide in Palestine is complicit.
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Tbf there is a lot of money in propaganda. I don't know how someone who grew up in some backwards-ass rural town/village in some hyper-conservative area in the deep south of the US is supposed to develop the critical thinking enough to look past fox news and actually do research. I'm not excusing them, but like, I understand why they don't believe its happening.
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- I know nothing
- I don't believe the information
- I believe but don't care. <--- The US is around here
- I care but I don't act
- I act but without effect
- I act with effect
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I believe but don’t care. <— The US is around here
That's only the democrats
The republicans don't even believe it
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We are experiencing a livestreamed Holocaust!!!
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Realistically I suspect what they'd actually say is just to deny that it ever happened, or worse, to claim that it was good or necessary or inevitable in some way.
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"I chose to be willfully ignorant!!"
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Funny to see how history is repeating itself in the US with "internal enemies" being deported to deathcamps outside the country. So much easier to downplay the horrors when the mass killing aren't happening within the country.
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About that.... The dark history of "gasoline baths" at the border
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Honestly, does it even matter what genocide deniers or people who recognize the genocide say? There's been a lot of discourse, international criminal court investigations, news coverage, protests about Gaza, yet European and American bourgeois governments kept sending billions to Israel and I highly doubt it's due to lack of evidence or that they "didn't know".
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Netanyahu is wanted for crimes against humanity, and yet he is meeting with high ranking officials or even nation leaders...
we all are complicit.
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I disagree that "we are all complicit", as it's the ruling bourgeois class that makes all of the decisions for funding/meetups and that's who should be blamed, while the working class is largely powerless with the only 'realistic' resistance towards this geopoliticing being protests, which essentially is nothing more than begging.
That's the main point of my comment, and if there's anything we as workers are truly guilty of, it's failing to achieve workers liberation that would remove the need for a bourgeois government that helps maintain and strengthen a zionist state completely. Granted, it's not for the lack of trying - liberals have been really good at violently suppressing and exhausting class conscious thought.
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Is @commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com your alt?
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They also knew about it before the end of the war and the genocide of the Nazis was announced before it happened. Some attempts at damage control against the Nazi regime were maid such as conceding the Sudetenland and the Anschluss of Austria. They did try to stop the Nazis it in part, but appeasement did not work.
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Alternatively, I refused to see
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There is verified evidence of it.
Even a body count of 50,000 dead so far and millions of displaced starving people who don't have their homes any more. It's been reported, documented, photographed, on video, eye witness accounts, verified by journalists, academics and politicians.
We are all complicit at this point.
In 50 years, the world will blame all of us who are alive now for letting this happen.
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I can only imagine the confusion of someone in the future looking up my posting history around this time. How could we not have used every ounce of our strength to fight this?
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The meme isn't about spreading awareness, it's about denial. Denial would be the exact opposite of spreading awareness.
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I missread it for "There's a genocide in Gaza"
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I feel like you might have misread the text in the image? Otherwise I'm confused - the first guy in this image is denying that there's a genocide at all, rather than spreading awareness or donating.
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My bad, I read "There's a gencide in Gaza" 😭 🙏
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Did you really make a wojak meme about the genocide? People out there are living in hell on earth
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I didn't make it, no.
I don't see how its different from a political cartoon, or similar.
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Did you really write a comment because this meme used "wojacks" to get a point across?
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