Technology @lemmy.world mastermind @lemm.ee 1 yr. ago

Microsoft has over a million paying Github Copilot users: CEO Nadella

www.zdnet.com Microsoft has over a million paying Github Copilot users: CEO Nadella

The company's Bing search engine, which has been integrated with OpenAI's ChatGPT, has resulted in users engaging in "more than 1.9 billion chats" so far, said Satya Nadella.

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...and might be losing money from each of those: https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-reportedly-is-losing-lots-of-money-per-user-on-github-copilot/
- That's not such a big deal. Their objective is to get people hooked on the system. After that, they'll jack up the price. Microsoft can easily afford to lose money for several years in pursuit of that target.
  
  (One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.)
  
  One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.
  
  MS might be in trouble then.
  
  Performance is not great but apparently it’s not optimized at all as of right now.
  
  There are already very impressive local models for coding. Some have come out favourably to copilot in tests iirc
  
  Edit: https://evalplus.github.io/leaderboard.html
  
  Not familiar with the tech, but wouldn't server-side LLMs still have an advantage regardless because of the greater power available on tap? Anything that improves local LLM will also benefit server-side LLMs, wouldn't it?
- That seems so weird when you think about the pricing for openai API. It feels at least an order of magnitude cheaper than using chatgpt plus subscription, which in turn is $20/month. If Copilot is losing money, openai must be burning money by truckloads.
  
  Openai is losing money. I'm too lazy to find the article, but it is mindblowing how much they're losing
  
  Edit: nvm, I found it https://medium.com/illumination/openai-lost-540m-in-2022-needs-100b-to-developing-artificial-generative-intelligence-20126721cd13
  
  It sure is, what would make you think otherwise? It has enough VC money to burn
- We're in the sliceline era of generative ai, enjoy it before prices get hiked
  
  Yep everyone's trying to capture market share and stamp out any competitors with shorter funding runways until they achieve some amount of monopolization over the customer base. Then comes the price hikes and other anti consumer bullshit.
Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft is happy with the theft of copyrighted works and people's personal information.

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