Bayer, which acquired Monsanto in 2018, has recently broken its winning trial record with a number of jury verdicts against it.
Bayer’s Monsanto was ordered to pay more than $1.5 billion Friday over claims its patented weed-killer, Roundup, was linked to users’ cancer, Bloomberg reported.
James Draeger, Valerie Gunther and Dan Anderson were each awarded a total of $61.1 million in actual damages and $500 million each in punitive damages by jurors in state court in Jefferson City, Missouri.
The three people alleged that their non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas — a type of cancer that begins in your lymphatic system, part of the body’s immune system — were caused by years of using Roundup while gardening.
I'll never forget the weird fucking sub of literal Monsanto apologists on reddit who'd keyword search for anything negative and descend with gish-gallop and brigading.
Bunch of weirdos, some of whom openly admitted to working for and depending on Bayer/Monsanto for a living.
They'll be here if we start popping up in Google searches. I always assumed they were paid professionals, working entry-level jobs for reputation management consultants.
More than likely it's a bot farm hired by a public relations firm. Bot farms create bots every day and then assign them tasks to repost popular content and then reply using popular comments under different bots all so they can build up credibility and look like a real user. So then when they are put to a task you can have a single user welding the influence of hundreds or thousands to control the narrative.
Reddit is famously saturated in those bots and this place is likely no different but on a smaller scale made even easier by the instance system.
As a mod on a few garden and science subs at that time, they were pernacious and ethically inept. They would associate anything anti-pesticide or GMO with being an anti science quack. And they would dog pile on poor individuals expressing concern.
I had several debates with them, often reported them for brigading, and ultimately had to ban them.
Being anti-GMO is almost always anti-science quack. (Except if your complaint is about the patenting of the DNA) Pesticides are a bit more complicated because they are necessary for modern agriculture, but of course making a poison that only kills the things you want to kill has the risk if them killing more things.
Bunch of weirdos, some of whom openly admitted to working for and depending on Bayer/Monsanto for a living.
Society relies on products they've developed, the world would be a very different place without gramoxone, 2,4-D and glyphosate. Considering glyphosate is the safest of the widely used herbicides it's probably not a great thing to brand everyone who is against banning it a shill.
I'll defend glyphosate if you like, it's pretty damn safe and useful. Might not be good idea to be chronically exposed to it, although as I understand it the evidence is still unclear.
I think it has an important role in setting up conservation agriculture systems, during the initial land preparation to remove perennial weeds. We don't do enough of this and topsoil losses from annual tillage are a huge, civilisation ending problem.
But it's like that clip of somebody calling it safe then refusing to drink a glass of it. He should have offered them a nice glass of cow shit slurry in return. It doesn't track, I wouldn't drink a glass of lube but I'm pretty sure it's safe.
Lol this is hilarious. You're the only one here that put forth an argument. And in a thread where someone was whining about being "piled on" for their position against glyphosate, you're being piled on.
It was like they were literally warning people what would happen if you don't join the circle jerk.
$1.5b is barely a slap on the wrists, but hopefully the first in an avalanche of lawsuits for them. This is like one fiscal quarter's revenue for RoundUp, but hopefully the signal of the beginning of the end. Bayer gotta be really regretting that big Monsanto purchase.
Now do insecticides.
ETA: I retract a bit of my previous statement, looks like they were up to $11b in payouts as of last year, and looking to surpass the $16b they set aside for these lawsuits. Keep slapping that wrist!
A Monsanto shill claimed he would drink the stuff on TV in an interview to prove how safe it was, but the interviewer called him out on his bluff and he refused to do it LMAO. Guy's name was Patrick Moore, ex-greenpeace founder turned paid shill for whatever company is paying him, usually it's climate change denial.
True story: When I was in grade school another kid bragged that a 2-4-D salesman told a bunch of loggers that it was so safe that you could drink it. Afterwards one of the loggers put a $50 bill next to a small cup of the herbicide and dared anyone to drink it for the money. The kids dad drank it and snatched the money. He died of cancer within 10 years.
He's also the one who called out Greenpeace for their anti-nuclear stance. Which was correct on his part, but it's sad to see that stance comes with so much other baggage.
In high school in the 80s our science teacher repeatedly showed RoundUp promotional materials over a period of about 6 months. It was super creepy, almost Leni Riefenstahl in production.