China backs Argentina’s Falklands claim, calls for end to ‘colonial thinking’
China backs Argentina’s Falklands claim, calls for end to ‘colonial thinking’
Beijing envoy warns special committee on decolonisation of ‘serious implications’ for international order of hegemonism and power politics.
Worth noting that the Chinese ambassador also called it the Malvinas throughout, not the Falklands.
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it's been a british outpost since before argentina was even a country
it's just a spanish imperial claim inherited by a colony, pursued by the colonizersIt literally has nothing to do with that. It's land off the coast of Argentina. They should be allowed to use it and not have British oil drilling and navy ships patrolling around it.
How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don't have one already?
How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don't have one already?
and how would that be affected by the brits owning it?
as a communsist, the thing i care about the most is people and the people of the falklands overwhelmingly want to be part of this hell hole for some fucking reason
and given that the islands were uninhabited before they were colonised, there is no justification for suddnly making them argentinianNot like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever. The here and now is that Britain is drilling for resources there.
The UK is 11th in terms of median wealth, Argentina is 119th. Should oil money off the coast of Argentina benefit Argentinians, or British people?
Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else.
There is no reason whatsoever to override self determination because There were no indigenous people there when it was settled. So the people who live there come first.
"self determination" of a bunch of white people living under the rule of the extremely present (navy ships and military planes) British government.
Self determination of the people living there, who's ancestors took it from noone. The rest is jargon.
they have claim to the islands because they fucking live there dude
because i'm sensing a "you're just a british nationalist" coming in the immediate future, i'll just make my position clear
if the islanders decided that they would rather be argentinian, i would wholeheartedly support argentina's claim to the islandsThis. People first. Peoples right to self determination and democracy from top to bottom in society is paramount. As communists, that principle is absolute.
You're acting like the Argentinian government is gonna massacre them the second power is transferred. Probably nothing would change but Argentina would get the profit from oil and tourism.
Like Argentinians are not on average wealthy people. The British people living on those islands probably have it way better than most of the people in Argentina. It's kind of gross.
Humans don't exist to create profit for the Argentinian government.
lol idealist nonsense. Argentinians would see more wealth from owning the islands than they do now.
Idealist nonsense, says the person who wants to divide up all natural resources equally into amorphous national state boundaries regardless of the wishes of the people who live there, until all national states have equal populations, areas, and access to natural wealth?
You're literally just spewing more idealist nonsense. You know that countries are a thing that still exist right? Either Argentina gets to benefit from the islands, or Britain (lmao) does. You're saying the British should benefit because they colonized some islands hundreds of years ago and there's a couple thousand people there. If there was 1 person living in the Falklands, would that justify oil and gas drilling and a British military outpost?
You're acting like the Argentinian government is gonna massacre them the second power is transferred.
Historically, how have occupying powers dealt with local populations that overwhelmingly don't want them there?
Yeah those occupying powers like the British Empire. You're gonna act like Alberto Fernandez is gonna massacre some people living on an island lol.
A hostile local population is an obstacle to resource exploitation and capitalists will remove that obstacle one way or another.
There's a point where it tips from "just some people living on an island" and becomes "Britain maintaining an imperial outpost for resource extraction".
So you're saying that sometimes it's ok to conquer people who have done nothing but exist, as a treat.
Again you're acting like a transfer of ownership from THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT to Argentina is "conquering" lmao.
Literally Richard Spencer "peaceful relocation" bullshit at this point.
Who said they had to relocate?
No one, full support for just killing Argentinian occupation soldiers until they go home.
How you gonna transfer ownership if the people living there don't want to transfer ownership?
edit: wait we've seen this one before, let's do some greatest hits and get hundreds of people killed again.
well as they were born there and have the only sensible claim of being native to the island
Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever.
I would absolutely say the first group of people to settle a previously uninhabited area have more claim than anyone else.
“Native Americans have no more claim to Ohio than anyone else” yeah except being the first people to live there
There's a lot to criticize the UK for. Fairly inhabiting barren rocks without an indigenous population isn't one of them.
Nobody should have control over land on the other side of the planet.
Why shouldn't the Falklands be Chilean then?
Chile is further away. Didn't luck out I guess.
Chile is only 5000 meters further away. Yes, meters.
I mean why is this important? Ok, make it joint owned by Chile and Argentina. Better than Britain controlling it.
Chile gets the left one, Argentina gets the right one.