The US & Europe go to war - Britain calls for aid! Who do you join?
The US & Europe go to war - Britain calls for aid! Who do you join?
King Charles of Canada makes a rare public speech calling for aid from the Commonwealth to support Europe in defending against the US. It's broadcast on Canadian TV.
Who do you join? The US or the UK?
Knee jerk response? Demand King Charles no longer be our king.
Honest response? What's the war over? If the UK is mass killing people (they have a history of that), then the US. The US is mass killing people (they have a history of that), then thr UK.
Maybe we should grow beyond the last century's call for war better get to killing response. Maybe Canada should feel bad about its role in the Boer war, for example, or question what we should have done differently in the Korean War, and perhaps nuance needs to be done.
Maybe the two old heads of state on each side should have to fight to the death or negotiate rather than millions of the world's poor sent through generational hell so one side can have more money.
Demand King Charles no longer be our king.
Tell us you don't understand the risks to our own government setup, why don't you?
Thus why I called it my knee jerk reaction. The tie in of the monarchy isn't easy or possible to get rid of in Canada, regardless of how i feel about the royals. My point more so was a British monarch immediately asks for help from a country with lower GDP and army spending without elaborating, and I don't really like him.
You see, when one says "knee jerk", per vocabulary.com it means:
The idiom "a knee jerk reaction" means that you respond to something in an equally unthinking way. If you instinctively assume that someone who loves clowns wouldn't have much in common with you, that's a knee jerk, or automatic, reaction.
Thus I'm unthinking. It's not meant to be taken seriously, inherently meaning that it's a bad or idea I haven't thought about.
The proper response is we become Switzerland and stay out of it
I am on no ones side, because no one is on my side.
The Swiss
I need more details. When we say 'support Europe' do we mean just the UK?
Due to your indecisiveness Bristol and Liverpool have been firebombed by the US Navy wiping out 1 MILLION Brits. Princess Eugenie of Canada and Home Secretary were among the casualties.
The UK is part of Europe. Not the EU but defensive alliances still exist between the UK and Europe. The USA and Europe (+ UK) are at war across the Atlantic.
President Macron calls for Aid from Quebec.
The war is desperate! What do you do?!
You're on your own, Charles. I'm a republican, anyways.
Considering one of those 2 is across an ocean and the other bumps right up against our most populous areas, I think the choice is clear. Even if the US was objectively the bad guys I would rather we just roll over and surrender than try to fight an army that large
Canada has a history that includes the longer sniper shot on a moving target and also tactics that involve shelling our own position and staggering down to Washingston DC for some Light Remodeling. Our forests are so thick that a group of people were lost for a week less than 10 minutes' drive outside of town.
I'm okay not cleaving to the US immediately. They won't see us, they won't find us, until they're upon us and the artillery lights up .
I am much more suited to snarky online comments than actual combat.
Gun to my head, have to choose a side for which to fight? Probably the UK, I trust it more than the US.
But have you considered that the US is most certainly going to win?
I don't know, we beat 'em last time, I'd bet we can burn the white house twice.
I wonder about that. On the face of it, yes they ought to. But a couple of thoughts might tip the scale:
- an offensive war is much harder than a defensive one.
- America would have to maintain gigantic transoceanic supply lines .
- America has a low tolerance for casualties, especially in foreign lands. Whereas Europe defending itself would probably be more tolerant. (Except for France. For French reasons.)
- Such an invasion would cause huge social unrest at home. Presumably such an invasion would be instigated by trump who would then be compelled to deploy the military at home as well.
And while I can't vouch for the source, in a few categories the two actually seem relatively evenly matched: https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_European_Union_EU_vs_USA
I also wonder how much air superiority the US would really have. Assuming other countries weren't letting the US use their air bases, they'd have to project air power from their carriers. Google seems to think about 64 fighters per carrier, as the US only has 20 carriers, which gives it an effective air fleet of about 1,300 aircraft compared to Europe's 5000.
am need context first
Taxes on tea
Well, if we allow such a broadcast, the US is invading us. So, I guess I should deal with that first.
Maybe it's my lack of imagination, but I can't imagine a dispute between those two nations that would be justified in any way at this time. Likewise, I can't see how the relationship could degrade to point where war was the only feasible option.
World being configured as it is today, I don't see a reason to point a gun at anybody, for any reason.
While we enjoy that luxury, it's the perfect time to: talk with someone who you disagree with on a fundamental level. Get to know them as a fellow human being. Listen to their life experiences, & share your life experiences with them. Discuss deep questions openly and honestly. Don't be afraid. Be honest, be sincere.
Man I forgot King Charles was real for a minute and really thought you made someone up for the sake of the question.
I mean they both suck right now but I can't tell if I think the UK sucks less only because I don't get as much of their news. Also you mentioned we'd be supporting Europe in the first part not just the UK? If it's US vs EU I'm backing EU all the way.
Well like you said, we are under Britain
We see ourselves as such anyway and hate Americans
