Tesla drivers had highest accident rate, BMW drivers highest DUI rate, study finds
Tesla drivers had highest accident rate, BMW drivers highest DUI rate, study finds
Tesla drivers had 24 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period from mid-November 2022 to mid-November 2023, according to a study by Lending Tree.
Tesla drivers had highest accident rate, BMW drivers highest DUI rate, study finds::Tesla drivers had 24 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period from mid-November 2022 to mid-November 2023, according to a study by Lending Tree.
Best part about this study is that Telsa beat out Ram trucks, giant lifted monstrosities that are loved by people rocking punisher stickers.
Telling the press that autopilot and FSD is critical for safety, then getting a worst safety rating than Ram, is hilarious.
Honestly thought that Dodge Ram drivers would carry Dodge to the highest DUI and accident rate combined. You have to really screw up to beat that.
I’m not intending to defend Musk or Tesla here, but this study is literally just insurance incidents by brand and makes no distinction between Teslas on autopilot and under human control.
Teslas tend to attract a certain kind of driver that likes their performance characteristics who are not typically known for being the safest drivers.
There’s no doubt that a lot of Tesla drivers abuse the autopilot capabilities, and the Elon Musk hype machine is at least partially to blame for that, probably more.
But this isn’t evidence one way or the other about the safety of Tesla’s FSD.
What's the point in these bots posting news articles about stuff covered a week ago?
I had thought that a number of subreddits took the repost thing a bit too seriously. I was a relatively heavy user, and I’d still be encountering content for the first time even though there were people complaining about reposts.
But on lemmy there’s not enough total content to begin with, and what there is gets fragmented across a fractal explosion of topics, so I end up having to browse /all sorted by new and just count on blocking communities rather than subscribing to tune my content.
I will still see the same article posted across multiple instances and topics in a row. I haven’t yet found a client that can make the UX as seamless as Apollo or even Alien Blue.
I have a similar strategy, and I don't mind the duplicate topics as it makes sense for how Lemmy works.
But this news was covered on this very community five days ago.
DUI = driving under the influence
BMW = Bayerische Motoren Werke
Bayerische Motoren Werke AG xD
It’s 24 out of 1000 for Tesla, close second 23 out of 1000 for Rams, and third 21 for Subaru.
By contrast, drivers of Pontiac, Mercury and Saturn vehicles were all involved in fewer than 10 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period of the study.
I was wondering what the average was, but more than double the incidents than the lower end isn’t insignificant.
I was about the severity of these incidents. I imagine Ram incidents being much more deadly. Also, I thought Tesla would have technology to avoid accidents so I’m surprised it’s so high up there.
Tesla's a really expensive to repair, so even minor accidents often get claimed with insurance. So if you look at incident rate by insurance claims, you would expect them to be disproportionately reported.
I wonder if there's a correlation between the accidents and people fucking around with automation, the types of people buying them or the car itself.
So people trying to insure a new Tesla were involved in accidents higher than Ram? Doesn’t say what car they were driving when they had accidents, only that they are looking for insurance on a Tesla. Anyone who claims this is because of Tesla vehicles has an agenda to push.
Anti Tesla/Elon agenda? On Lemmy? No - that can't be right
I'm sure next you're going to accuse us of communist apologia.
I read this and I missed the part where it only was for new vehicles. Based on what I read, this was for any requested quotes, which would include people shopping for better rates on vehicles they already have been driving.
Yea good point. The “study” is poorly done and the opinion fluff pieces coming out on top of it are just terrible.
Weird that this 'study' keeps getting picked up by different outlets and attributed to LendingTree who specifically notes at the top of said study that they don't endorse anything within it and it's solely the opinion of the author.
Furthermore, this study is obviously flawed as it states Pontiac, Mercury, and Saturn as the vehicles with the safest drivers, even though none of those companies have produced a car in around 15 years. The data is also sourced from people filling out insurance applications and doesn't actually account for who was at fault for these accidents, nor does it even track the type of vehicle involved in the accident. It simply tracks who has an accident or DUI on their record and what vehicle they're currently looking to get insurance quotes for. It's clickbait in its purest form.
Not to mention that people who buy brand new Teslas are more likely to submit an insurance claim for anything at all than someone driving a15 year old Saturn
This is a crap study. It looks at the rate of incidents per driver, not per mile driven. Maybe the safest cars on the list are just…not driven very much.
So this basically means that drink bmw drivers still drive safer than sober tesla drivers
Ha, based on just the headline I started to wonder whether Tesla's "autopilot" is behind the accidents, and seems like it's at least partially the case:
A two-year investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found that Tesla’s Autosteer feature, which is part of Autopilot and FSD, had safety defects that may cause an “increased risk of a collision.” The NHTSA said it found that Tesla drivers can too easily misuse the cars’ Autosteer feature and may not even know whether it is engaged or switched off.
Are people upvoting this repost blindly or is this news truly new to them?
Tesla numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. There are so few drivers it is easy too easy for a few outliers to mess this up.
The data set > 20 million quotes. It's not like they only looked at 1000 drivers or something.
With your own evidence, it's also a big deal to note this is just for people requesting quotes. Not anyone actually driving a Tesla.