Josh Hawley seeks revival of ‘Our Christian Nation,’ condemns ‘atheist left’
Josh Hawley seeks revival of ‘Our Christian Nation,’ condemns ‘atheist left’
Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state. Every nation needs a common religious ideal and shared moral ...
Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.
Dear Josh:
Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Congress 11/4/1796.
"Article 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."And to be absolutely clear, ratification of a treaty makes all the language therein U.S. law unless struck down by the courts.
It has never been struck down by the courts.
As an atheist lefty, Im proud to be considered this traitor's enemy.
I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
FDR must have been a terrible person, his enemies HATED him!
The same Josh Hawley who tried to overturn the 2020 election? The same who egged on insurrectionists outside the capitol on Jan 6th?
I just want to make sure we are talking about the same Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley here, so there's absolutely no confusion.
Let's count the FBI https://twitter.com/FreeStateWill/status/1757071992765698496
You J6 hoaxers are hilarious. You keep calling it an insurrection - yet NO ONE has been charged with that. Also Trump was not connected criminally to any of the seditious conspiracy cases or defendants.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF0zS3KaoAAJrEP?format=jpg
We saw the videos. We know you are lying to conceal the election interference.
Like the 9 Oathkeepers that were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is defined in Title 18 as:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both
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Yah redundant muffin.
We saw the videos. We know you are lying to conceal the election interference.
My man has gone the full 2000 Mules.
Give your boy-toy Dr. Hotze a kiss for us in prison.
You're right, he wasn't charged with insurrection. Among the four charges related to the January 6 events is conspiracy against rights, which is pretty much a stand-in for insurrection. His entire scheme to defraud US voters by setting up false slates of electors in swing states relied on Pence to halt the vote count and in so doing arrest the peaceful transfer of power. While people were breaking windows and dying, Trump, against the behest if multiple staff members refused to call in the national guard until the last minute. Why? Because he was on the phone the whole time trying to convince Pence to follow through with the scheme they had concocted. Fortunately Pence saw the light and understood the consequences. But thanks for your "akshually not charged with insurrection" profound perspective.
Fucking revisionist, fantasy bullshit, call it out for what it is and QUIT GIVING IT THE OXYGEN OF MEDIA ATTENTION.
That’s how ya starve the beast.
I'm not sure baptistnews.com is interested in doing that
America was never a christian nation.
and if he gave a shit about the founding documents outside of the 2nd amendment, he might know that.
Hell, "In god We Trust" only came around in force cause we thought it'd somehow magically keep the "evil communists" away in the 50s.
America was never a christian nation.
Okay, tap the breaks. America is absolutely a nation of Catholic and Protestant migrants, with much of the lower half dominated by Spanish/French missionaries while the northeast was originally settled by English, French, German, and Scandinavian Protestants fleeing the 30 years war, the Napoleonic Wars, the World Wars, and their attendant aftershocks.
De-Christianization in the US is a very new phenomenon, largely stemming from the economic expansion of the post WW2 era and the rapid circulation of professional workers during the Reagan Era. To say we "were never a Christian nation" you really need to explain where all these damned churches came from. Some of them are really old.
Hell, “In god We Trust” only came around in force cause we thought it’d somehow magically keep the “evil communists” away in the 50s.
Yes, but we've been having religious revivals in this country straight back to before the original founding. A big part of our history involves different sects of religious diaspora migrating to the US as refugees fleeing this or that pogrom, from French Huguenots fleeing to Louisiana to West New York Mormons fleeing to Utah to Polish Jews fleeing to Brooklyn to Black Baptists fleeing to Harlem.
The "In God We Trust" thing was the comical low-hanging fruit passed by a 1950s Congress that wanted to conflate the broadly popular idea of Christian religious doctrine with the far more controversial idea of Market Capitalism.
Yeah, the people that came to build european colonies on this land were christian extremists, but that doesnt make America a christian nation... Especially since the very foundation of the nation, a staunch separation of church and state with no law establishing one religion over another, was one of the very beginning principles.
Its right there in the first amendment.
America is a land where religion should have no more presence but between a person and their god, as far as Jefferson was concerned at least, and I'm sure many other founders shared that sentiment.
Such bullshit. The left isn’t atheist. The left just says you can believe in whatever god you want, or no god at all, just don’t tell us we have to believe in your god.
Exactly.
And this mothefucker is the type to finally make me stand up. You can have whatever religion you like, UNTIL YOU FORCE ME TO PRACTICE.
I will turn this nation upside down before I allow that to just happen and I'm sure I can count on everyone here to join in.
I’ll tweak your comment just a bit, “until you force me to live by your religious beliefs”. Being forced to believe “their way” is almost irrelevant if they’re already punishing you for not doing so. The end result is the same: You will conform.
Well, that's interesting Josh Hawley, but the whole 'separation of church and state' thing says you're wrong. I'm sorry you don't like it but you're more than welcome to go fuck yourself.
Consider the SCOTUS has now established "deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions" as the test for whether something is constitutional or not... his viewpoint will certainly resonate there.
Yes. It's disgusting. Judges are not supposed to be politicians and these Christofascists use some real pretzel logic interpretations of law to come to their conclusions.
I would happily kick Josh Hawley in the dick, so I don't give a shit what he thinks.
I'd aim for the balls, personally.
I'm reasonably certain that I can count on one hand the number of times Hawley or his GOP ilk have ever set foot in a church outside of a planned photo op.
stats say a lot of the MAGA crowd really are churchgoers, its just the ones they go to are insane.
Oh no doubt. In a way, that's entirely my point.
These GOP politicians don't give a shit about "christian values". They just lean hard into it in order to capture that voting block.
Mr Divorcee needs to shut the fuck up.
Very Christian.
Missouri has the lowest life expectancy of any state. Good job there fuckwit, your constituents get to meet Jesus sooner than everyone else. YEE-FUCKING-HAW!
Wait, there's an option to die sooner? Fuck, I'm not really seeing a downside. How do I get in this express lane?
Good luck with that, asshole.
Last time I remember seeing him he was running from the 1/6 “tourists”. He needs to become familiar with the guillotine.
These fascist traitors need to be put in their place.
Trump losing in November should just about do it. I don’t see how the GOP donors can keep pumping money into something that’s just not fucking working electorally.
I think thats why they're trying to undermine elections using legislatures and courts
I'm sure Jesus would be so pleased to know that his image is used to bring power to the American christofascists. 🙄
Chicken shit Hawley can go and fuck himself
Why does he look like a half-chewed dog's toy?
'Cause the dog stopped halfway through.
I'm pretty sure Mr. Hawley is just the sort that will appeal to whatever fears and hatred will drive his base to the election polls. Either he'll get betrayed once the Wolf's Lair decides his kind are the next on the purge list, or he'll get executed by the Allies for being a high-ranking officer in a fascist autocracy.
And if he somehow escapes, the Nazi hunters will be on his tail for the next half century.
Rot in hell, extremist Christian fuck-face.
What exactly does he mean with revival? Back when the US were a British colony? Because the USA are not a Cristian nation and never were.
So is he a monarchist?
Used to listen to a local, conservative radio host. Great guy, really. Lady called in around Christmas talking about America always being a Christian nation.
"Well, not really. Our founding fathers were mostly Deists and the like..."
"That's what I said, CHRISTIAN."
"Well, no they weren't. In fact, they were against proclaiming America a Christian..."
"Yes! You're right! CHRISTIAN!"
The caller walked away thinking the host was agreeing with her!
Luke gave it up around 2007/08, something like that. Fuck me. If Luke McCoy wasn't conservative enough... Anyway, Luke died in 2016. Thank god he didn't see today's breed of right-wingers.
There used to be sane voices on the right. Maybe I didn't agree with them, but they weren't bug fuck nuts.
And it should be noted that someone being a Diest then is very similar to an atheist now. The founding fathers were largely either the equivalent of atheists or of radical left wing Christianity
