'Uncommitted' wins 2 Democratic delegates in Michigan, a victory for Biden's anti-war opponents
'Uncommitted' wins 2 Democratic delegates in Michigan, a victory for Biden's anti-war opponents
While Biden won the state with more than 618,000 votes, more than 100,000 Michigan Democratic primary voters cast ballots for "uncommitted" in the race, enough to pick up the pair of delegates.
It's almost like complicity in a genocide might potentially be unpopular in some segments of the American public. Crazy.
I’m genuinely surprised and disgusted by the bloodthirsty warmongering of the majority of elected democrats. I’m a far left Jew, not that that should matter at all, but I feel like a lot of elected officials look to people like me for permission to get all riled up and hungry for genocide. But we as Jews should be the loudest voices in the room calling for a complete and immediate ceasefire and immediate negotiations to get the Palestinians the state they obviously deserve. Because, you know, “never forget”….or some such clearly disingenuous aphorism.
It’s despicable to me that anyone, let alone Jews in Israel and beyond, thinks that what Israel is doing is remotely acceptable. We will never get back the moral high ground.
Part of the problem is the lack of distinction between Zionism and Judaism, and even after that the distinction between forms and levels of Zionism. For instance there's been a lot of Orthodox Jews in and outside of Israel who protest against this conflict for varying reasons, most on a genuine moral basis though some for more mundane religious reasons. This isn't even to mention all the Jewish leftists who protest against the conflict as well solely on humanitarian grounds.
Unfortunately what doesn't get covered by the Neoliberal and Corporate (read: Moderate Fascist) media is all the suppression of these protests, especially within Israel by the Fascist Likud party-led government. Haaretz will occasionally do some real reporting and cover this kind of stuff from inside Israel but most Israeli left voices are strongly suppressed within Israel itself, and leftist parties are pushed to the margins of the Knesset. Because of this marginalization, the loudest anti-war Jewish voices come from outside Israel itself, where they have no direct influence over it, but at least are less likely to be jailed for their protests.
I'm not a fan of state sponsored genocide either. but I can only blame progressives for this situation. for the progressive base, if a candidate doesn't hit every. single. one. of their pet issues, they won't vote. and if they do vote but their candidate loses they get all upset and tune out and snipe at what the actual elected democrats are (or are not) doing.
instead of tuning out, they should have been getting involved either running for elected office or running for local party positions themselves. look at the republican party. they didn't all of a sudden go fringe batshit crazy overnight. they built up a bench of insane by running for stuff on the local levels and taking over the party from the inside.
if you want change, y'all are going to have to put in the sweat equity and work for it. just voting is not going to be sufficient anymore. and this is something that I have never seen the progressive base do when they have the numbers to do it. I can definitely tell you that withholding your vote is a 100% guarantee that none of your issues get addressed because the thinking in the party will be, "this bloc of voters are not reliable. putting in the resources and doing what a group of flakey voters wants is a waste of time and money. best to focus on people who are reliable and reliably voting for us already." and if the people who actually vote say our foreign policy is fine, that's what the party is going to do.
And yet their response is going to be to help get an actual Nazi dictator (or at least wannabe) elected.
There is NO scenario where this turns out good for them. Do they actually think Trump is going to help their cause? He is more likely to just. give Israel nukes...
In all likelihood, Israel already has nukes so that's pretty much a non-issue. Trump would likely give Israel just as much or more support (the only confounding factor is that he's extremely cheap but US money isn't his own money so this may not be a factor), but when a genocide is occurring and both candidates are pursuing a course of complicity, degrees of complicity approach meaninglessness. Your best bet is to reshuffle the deck in order to get a candidate who won't support genocide. Biden should be primaried, but the DNC functionaries likely won't permit this in practice (of course in theory the primary will proceed, just without party support or acknowledgement), so the sooner he's out of office the sooner he can be replaced by someone who might not be comfortable with complicity in a genocide.
It's fine to want your elected representatives to be good people. But I wouldn't count on any politician at that level
Are there any anti-Biden headlines you don't share here?
That's not a challenge, that's me noting your single mindedness on this topic. I really don't know what your endgame is here other than a Trump presidency.
This is news. What are you criticizing him for? That he has to modulate what he posts to conform to what you think is correct?
This little hiccup in Michigan is a foreshadowing of what is about to happen in November and people need to accept that reality fairly quickly. Biden's done for. He is losing 5/6 battleground states he won last time.
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Here you go. I found one and posted it just for you...
Well, 2 out of 117 delegates.
The sentiment is nice, though sadly Palestine loses either way since we can't get a President Uncommitted in the white house who will cut ties with Israel tomorrow.
is it really?
if that's what you need to do to console yourselves after getting shellacked last night, go ahead.
that's 2 delegates out of 117 on offer.
people who are concerned about how biden is handling gaza were always going to be heard because that's how biden rolls. nothing has changed in this regard. and if those are the only 2 delegates who can uncommitted out of almost 2000 who officially vote for the candidate and set the convention schedule it's virtually nothing.
You don't understand how voting works then. That's enough for Biden to lose Michigan
you continue to assume that all of those uncommitted voters will be not biden voters in november and you assume that all of the haley voters will vote for trump. you are also assuming that everyone who voted in the primary are the total number of people who will be voting in november.
I'm not the one who doesn't understand how voting works here.