Floatplane is now below 37000 subscribers.
Floatplane is now below 37000 subscribers.
They have approximately now lost over 5000 subscribers which equates to about $25000 per month or $300000 per year in lost revenue.
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As a bystander just here for the popcorn and drama, would someone mind explaining what Floatplane is and how it pertains to LTT and LMG?
It's like a subscription based YouTube replacement. Like nebula or something. But mostly it's just LTT that has content there.
Core difference is that you subscribe to each channel individually, kinda like Patreon, instead of the Nebula model where you pay one fee and have access to every creator on there.
I'll also add on that it is almost definitely a significant part of their "business model"
Short term? It is basically a patreon without giving anyone else a cut. Whether they break even on video hosting is questionable. But I also imagine most of the people dropping aren't the ones grandfathered in at a really low rate.
Long term? It is immensely valuable to have a "viable VOD and Streaming platform" readily available. Because (home of horrific and violent bigots) Kick mostly got its big "push" because all the folk on Twitch are concerned about revenue split stuff. Just like Lemmy got its burst when Reddit went insane.
Having Floatplane as "stable and viable" when someone like Pokimane is looking for a new platform is how you become a major player. Especially since FP seems to combine Patreon+Youtube+Twitch... just with absolutely zero discoverability.
Awesome, thank you for the clarification.
That's a good explanation.
Floatplane is the video hosting service that they created and own. Instead of being ad supported it requires a monthly fee for each content creator on it (in the vein of only fans or patreon). So a loss of subs is a direct loss of monthly income for LTT.
Looks like their attempt at a video streaming app, separate from youtube.
Is it just them on the service? I don’t see the appeal over Nebula
It is not. It also has a lot of the not political gun youtubers on it, as wrll as various other hobby interests.
Is youtube cracking down on gun channels or something? Wouldnt shock me.
Youtube is being an ass about guns specifically. They had vague rules about assembly instructions including not being allowed to show someone screwing in a suppressor. Then they did the typical google thing and offerred no discussion or recourse options for talking about the rules to any of the youtubers. Essentially, fuck you, you do what you're told type of deal. It was enough that all the gun youtubers had legitimate worries about their job security in the short and longterm future. They've since walked back that specific rule, but there are still a lot of other rules restricting what kind of gun related content is actually allowed. And all the channel owners know that google can and will cut their gun content on a whim without forewarning or talking about it.
You also see this with their rules about swearing in videos. Whatever makes the advertisors happiest apparently.
That’s hilarious and complete shit.
Screwing on a suppressor?!
YouTube: NO OPENING A BOTTLE ON VIJIA
Being a creator would be so difficult nowadays with how careful you have to be to avoid their shitty unwritten rules.
I think Gun Jesus over at Forgotten Weapons has spoken about this on a couple of his Q&A videos.
I mention the silencer thing because attaching one to a gun is literally screwing it in - every hollywood movie that includes a silencer has this specific scene in it, and so did all of the gun youtubers. Google never told anyone if these rules were for going forward or if their old content would get called out for it too, and so there was lrgit worries about finding a channel ban for videos uploaded ten years ago.
Is there any way to see that? I clicked around their site and couldn’t find a list of what to expect, Nebula has creators on their home page
I have no idea. I learned this from the not political gun youtubers and various other hobby interest channels telling me they had a floatplane account set up.
DankPods also has quite a few channels on there and does his drum streams there too. I wonder if people subscribed to non-LMG channels are unsubbing, figured Floatplane's attachment to LMG might cause collateral damage to creators only related through the service they're using.
I believe it’s their website/platform, where they post exclusive content that only subscribers can view
It's like Nebula. LMG owns it, and gets a shit ton of revenue from it's subscription based service