People's Reaction When You Start Speaking Their Language.
People's Reaction When You Start Speaking Their Language.
People's Reaction When You Start Speaking Their Language.
Went to a pub in Reykjavik.
English Brother-in-law had finally decided to learn the language after like 15 years of living there. Had just about learned enough to order the drinks and have a basic conversation.
He orders slowly. The barman looks increasingly perplexed. He finishes and looks up, proud of his first real test of Icelandic.
"Sorry mate, I dunno what you're saying" says the barman in a thick Australian accent.
Honestly, just try English. Most small European countries speak it better than we do.
Lol I have a similar problem, I'm from Iceland but I don't live there anymore, so whenever I go back I try to enjoy the novelty of speaking my native language as much as possible. Trouble is, almost every service worker downtown doesn't even speak Icelandic lol
I remember this one. I love this story.
I never understood the "ugh you're trying to speak my language, I don't feel like listening to you butcher it" that some countries get.
Like every time a coworker bitches about how they can't understand a warehouse worker because of their heavy accent, the fuck do you expect them to do, not try to talk at all? (the real answer is usually "hurrrr go back tuh where dey came frum") but you're gonna sit there, butchering the language you use every single day by the way you speak and how you spell, while they're in a country they likely did not grow up in, and are learning the language still. If they don't converse, they have a harder time improving. If you truly cared about understanding them, you would talk to them more.
Anecdote time: one of the forklift drivers was fairly new when I started last year. She's a social butterfly. Comes over to ask how we're all doing, asks how my wife is, how coworkers kids are, how our weeks are going. She moved here from Puerto Rico, and barely has an accent anymore. It's definitely there and you can place it, but 0 problem understanding every word.
A couple guys started just after I did, and they stand around the compactor all day where it's too noisy to talk, and nobody voluntarily goes near. They still have very broken speech and heavy accents. They've been going out to clean things recently so I try to strike up conversations but they don't seem too social when they're working.
I have no way of knowing what these people do outside of work, but if inside is any indicator, being social and talking goes a long way to improving speech in any given language.
So maybe don't go "that's cute. Stop trying." instead go "hey cool, but if you're up for some constructive criticism..." and be helpful. Or shut the fuck up.
I'm ethnically Chinese/Vietnamese but raised in the UK/Canada and basically have only had a really crap grasp of Chinese. So I've been actively trying to learn. The number of fucking Chinese people that tell me to shut up or that I sound stupid is insane. These aren't even random Chinese neither, it's my fucking friends. Some of these people speak English with a shit accent. I've never made of theirs and I just lightly correct their word usage (like if they're missing a word or something). How the hell am I supposed to get better?
Three years ago I said screw it and went with doing Duolingo with YouTube video support. I can now read and "write" (use pinyin) but speaking is poor because nobody wants to talk to me despite me having a lot of Chinese friends. Not gonna stop though. I'm starting to pay for tutors but this feels so silly because the point of me learning was to connect with my Chinese heritage. I should have picked up french instead.
I wanted to share a quick story, but it's intention is not to excuse bad behavior. I speak two languages very well. One of the languages is relatively uncommon and I have only ever heard it spoken by native speakers. Recently I was at an event and am American told me they learned this language. I'm like that's cool as hell, let's hear. What came out of their mouth shorted out my brain and my brain refused to answer them in anything other than English.
I have no rational explanation of what occurred inside of my head. My partner actually asked me why I didn't respond back in the same language and I had no answer.
French is too generalised, in my experience.
Paris, they'll pretend they don't understand neither your English nor your 100 words of French.
Towns in the country, you meet indifferent professionalism and you kinda get by in English.
Rural areas, you encounter the greatest of enthusiasm for your knowledge of the local language, and just as well, because those 100 words are all you can rely on for the entire duration of your stay.
If you go to Normandy, they'll practically give you a BJ just for showing up!
their still excited over that beach party we threw in the 40s
They're just happy to sell their cidre and calvados to someone, anyone.
Depends where you go and when and for what. For most part of things I got by with my 100 words of french and English, but I avoided the touristic areas at the minimum possible.
Towns in the countryside, you'll get corrections, and often encouraged to repeat the word they just corrected you on.
There's a joke about how Finnish tourists deal with this.
They simply speak Finnish. If the local doesn't understand, then just repeat louder
Any attempt by a foreigner to speak "cúpla focail" (a few words) of Irish to me has been incredibly well received. It's usually Americans actually and their pronunciation is terrible, because Irish sounds nothing like it's spelled when compared to the usual latin alphabet sounds, but fair fucks to them. I appreciate it very much.
🍻 SLAINTY! 🍻
Close enough, you glorious demigod. ❤️
I once tried to order some drinks in a noisy bar in France. I thought I was explaining it ok but was not being understood by the girl behind the bar. It got really awkward and was making me seriously question my French (I'm English). Eventually it turned out that she was Irish and had equal but opposite holes in her own French. We had a good laugh about it and spoke in English thereafter.
Had she been Scottish tho we probably would have still been better off speaking in French.
I backed into someone in a crowded bar in Sapporo and said excuse me in Japanese and heard the same thing behind me. We both turned around at the same time and saw we were both foreigners.
I, an American, once asked a person what language they were speaking... They said they were Scottish and was speaking English.
Yeah I lived in Germany and speaking German was not encouraged. In France, they pretended they didn't speak English and ignored you if you spoke in broken French.
Hahaha this was my experience. I can hold very light conversations in Québec French like to ask directions, how's it going, ordering tickets and food and the like. I've gotten a few stares like I'm a mythical swampbeast who just awoke from a 100 year slumber.
Also my experience in French-speaking parts of Belgium.
I had a guy in a chip shop give me the nastiest scowl after ordering in french out of the phrase book.
Maybe I am assuming a lot of things here but is this your experience with businesses or people in the streets ?
In France we have a totally different approach than Americans for exemple regarding people we don't know. Even between french speakers we will generally not be light chatting with strangers (exacerbated in dense populated areas like Paris/Lyon), as opposed (as I understand) to Americans who can talk to anyone anywhere.
I often wonder if this sentiment of disdain for English speakers is not due to this misunderstanding of our habits.
Wait is this a thing in the US? It would explain why they are so surprised that nobody talks to strangers in the street and ignore them, it's just normal for me
Most Germans are just trying to be helpful when they talk to you in English. You can straight up tell them "Wir können auch Deutsch sprechen" and they will have no problem switching.
Interesting, that hasn't been my experience. I found that French people appreciated that I'd made an attempt and then they'd talk to me in English if they spoke it. Sometimes they just replied in French as well and then I'd ask if they spoke English because my French sucks.
Interesting, that hasn’t been my experience. I found that French people appreciated that I’d made an attempt...
That was also my experience in Parisian places of business. In terms of the streets, I agree with OP they were less motivated to engage.
In terms of rural areas, I wouldn't be surprised if dialectical française was the only thing spoken or listened to.. kind of a different situation entirely. For example, one might be completely fluent at course-taught or Parisian French, and still have a devil of a time.
So you lived in Berlin.
Just recently, I was in France and all the reactions were just lovely. Everyone replied in French to my French but asked if we should continue in English, when they noticed my understanding was incomplete.
Some cashiers spoke really fast, so I just pretended I understood and nodded. But everyone was very accommodating and repeated sentences if I asked or explained with different words.
Most people even spoke English with my colleagues, who don't speak French, and French with me. Even one waitress, whose English was really at the beginner level, made it work.
The prejudice against learning French only applies to the French, not the lovely people they brutally conquered in Africa.
I was once at a party with a group of gentlemen from the Ivory Cost, and saying "Côte d'Ivoire? Bonjour, je m'apalle Godriq, Comment se va?" after they introduced themselves made us best friends for the evening, even through they were initially surprised and very mildly disappointed I was not a Frenchman, as my grasp of the language was those few well-pronounced phrases.
Still, a great night with them from what I remember, great people, great amounts of booze, and a great amount of French learned!
Even Canadian (Quebecoise) French isn't received too well in France. Someone told my friend (Quebecoise) in France that they spoke "Barbarian French".
Ive heard from a few different tourists who went to places like Italy and South and Centeral American countries, and aparently often times people there want to practice their english which can cause quite the funny scene where you're both speaking each others language poorly at one another.
That's actually one of the best ways to learn a language short of full immersion, we call it a tandem!
Fun fact: in Soyuz-Apollo docking Soviet crew speaked English and American speaked Russian.
This happened to me in Ecuador! Hah! It was nice for learning as each one can correct the other if they fumble any pronunciation
Nah... Germans won't switch to English unless the German used is so bad that they can't understand lt
It's been 20 years since I was there, but people would see me, an obvious foreigner, and approach me to speak English. It happened pretty much everywhere I went. Before I even said a word, I'd be addressed in English. If I responded in German, they'd respond right back in English.
Not that I'm complaining. I only knew like 100 words in German. Just thought it was an interesting trend.
Unless the one you are speaking to is like over 40, then they will just keep talking German at you independently of that you are trying to say.
France: ohhhh un Québécois! Tabernacle!
Good fishin' in Quebec.
but if you're Acadien they looooove you, as they should, because Les Acadiens know how to party.
With night mode active those colors all look the same. I wish there were more colors than blue and a bunch of shades or red.
So you're saying it needs more shades of red
Yeah all I’m seeing is blue and red :( I’m assuming all the counties would rather speak English.
Bedtime mode completely monochrome here. Confused-and-should-be-sleeping gang rise up get that 6 to 8 hours of quality sleep!
I'm colorblind and two of the colors look exactly the same. And I'm not THAT colorblind, I just think it's a terrible color choice.
Dutch people's reaction is probably more of a combination of blue and pink ("Congrats, that's cute, but why'd you put yourself through this? We can just speak English"), but most people will actually appreciate the effort and go through with speaking in Dutch if you insist.
If you are from Germany on the other hand it is mandatory to greet in Dutch. They will answer you in German then.
Yep, that was my experience in NL
Works best if they can't tell you're from an English-speaking country by your accent...
Nee, Nederlands alstublieft. Ik probeer te integreren.
My experience in Germany is quite the oposit, they don't wanna talk in english and will entretain your broken german unless they literally can't unterstand you.
Even in the street I am approached in german and "I do not look german" at all.
Granted I was only in Berlin for two weeks, but all but two people I interacted with didn't immediately switch to English if they had something to say beyond the transaction. (A bus driver and a currywurst seller, who seemed genuinely annoyed that I was a tourist)
My experience is this: In Austria they want to speak English. In Germany they want to speak German. On a Lufthansa flight it's 50/50 whether they ask me questions in English or German.
This happens that people approach and start speaking in German, but I never had a problem that they didn't want to speak English once they realized I dont speak german
It probably depends on where in Germany you are. One time in Berlin I started on my broken German and they reacted with a big question mark, and then back to English.
And 20-30 years ago you had to use German most places.
Yeah, Berlin is a diferent breed. They will speak english to you there, is quite common.
Germany has a very big immigrant population, so plenty of people who don't look German at all but speak fluently or even natively.
About English, they are very self-concious and they often say that they speak "a little bit" when they are for all intents and purposes fluent.
Exactly!
We used to joke that most Germans don't speak English until you get them drunk, and then they are more fluent than native speakers.
Do you speak english?
A bit
How much is a bit?
You see, I wouldn't go as far as to say that I have internalized the complex syntactic fabrics of the english languaje but I can make myself understood and even, under good conditions take syntactic liberties to stress my points, furthermore, although my vocabulary is not as extensive as my heart deasires, I have been making great strives to make it richer and fuller.
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Dude...
Was denn?
Since youtube's algorithm started feeding me videos of multi-linguists running around and speaking lots of languages in various contexts, this seems accurate.
Here's one of them: https://youtu.be/CGi5W-gG-vs
Oh, and East Asia is mostly all colored red, especially if your pronunciation is good.
Love seeing that guy and the reactions he gets, it's inspiring!
Here in the states whenever I butcher Spanish to Spanish speakers they are actually quite happy lmao
Britain and Ireland be like “what else would you speak to me in?”
I wonder what it would be like as an American to spend a couple months on Duolingo Welsh and then go to Cardiff.
Scots, Gaelic (Scottish & Irish), Welsh, and any of the other minority languages
Totally agree but English would be the totally unsurprising choice
The biggest problem I've had learning basic language skills is people talk back to you and they don't typically say what's in the learning material. I've kind of made it seem like I understand if I speak the language and I kind of feel like an idiot looking back at them with a blank face when they speak it back to me. But I sucked in school with languages and chose to learn a dead one to get the language credit to graduate.
The way language is taught in school sucks anyhow
As someone from english Canada, our french second language courses wre the bare minimum that you can consider as a language course up until grade 10. It is the same concepts year after year, and you are left with nothing to show for it
It's not that much of a problem in France once you get out of Paris and Lyon
I think people have a better english in big cities than in small ones and it's a trend to hate parisians in France for no actual reason.
Source : lived around Paris my whole life apart from an exchange semester. I now live in a smaller city far from Paris
That's because Paris and Lyon remove the "please"
Anecdotally I went to Paris in the offseason and the locals were some of the nicest out of any country I visited on that trip. My French is shit but they tried so hard to work with me lol.
Ive traveled to all those areas to one extent or another and I've never seen a more accurate joke meme in my life.
I was confused for a moment why the purple regions don’t appear in the legend then I realised those are mostly populated by fish
Literally cannot tell the difference between two of these colors.... Why?
You may be colorblind.
It's either you have a really bad display or try doing this test: https://colormax.org/color-blind-test/
Sprich Deutsch, Du Hurensohn!
Why Brits are grey?
You get beaten up on a bus for "speaking foreign" in the UK
Because nobody notices
Think you miscolored Iceland, pretty sure most natives fall under the "Wait you learned a single word of Icelandic? You're pretty cool for a tourist.."
Slovenia always trying so hard not to be like the rest of the Balkans.
I hope this is true. I'm going to Spain in a few months and my Spanish is ok, but it's definitely Mexican Spanish and much slower than they speak in Spain. I'm gonna give it my best shot, so hopefully people are happy and not embarrassed for me and my mediocre grammar. I've been before but it's been almost 25 years and I was a lot more fluent then.
You needn't worry.The Spanish really appreciate attempts at Spanish in my experience, simply because you have so many people who don't bother their arse and just assume they speak English, which invariably they do in the service sector.
I m french ans honestly I m generally happy that someone try to speak my language.
Merci beaucoup mon ami!
De rien
True, kinda. But every foreigner I met who is not Russian learns at least some conversational Lithuanian really quickly.
Well crap, I've spent 4 months doing Norwegian on Duolingo. At least I might be able to read signs and stuff.
Learning is its own reward.
It'll be useful. Unless you're in maybe Oslo or Bergen, everything (signs, labels on all groceries, announcements, etc) is in Norsk and not everyone can/is willing to speak English, even Gen Y and younger.
Missed out on Wales there which is a bit from the pink collumn and a bit from the blue column.
こんにちわ
Btw I only understand some vocabulary and am still learning grammer so I won't understand anyone responding in japanese unless I know that specific bit of grammer and vocabulary
日本語上手 everywhere I went
They fucking loved it when I tried to speak Japanese
You know you've really learned Japanese when you finally stop hearing about your jozu nihongoes.
わ
It's the は particle in this expression
Este atat de tare cand gasesc o persoana ce vorbeste romana pe internet.
Multumesc mult!
Yeah, not my experience with Germany and English-speaking folk. Last time I was there I had to use Google Translate and a lot of hand waving to purchase U-bahn ticket. My friend living there had a doctor downright refuse to read her results to her because she had a weird accent while speaking German.
LOL truly funny
Hungarian here. We're nothing like any of those blue languages.
This isn't about similarity or anything but about reaction when someone speaks your language
The Spaniards like that?
I remember one time I was at a resort in Mexico and I asked reddit how service workers feel when foreign guests start speaking their language. Don’t remember what the hive mind said.
All I know is I asked for my drinks muy fuerte and I didn’t feel anything until I switched to cerveza. I watched them pour, I’m pretty sure the booze was watered down.