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"No one who works here at CapitalOne would ever tip this much so we just wanted to double-check you were of sound mind when you did this! :)"
This seems… reasonable..? They’re not telling you not to do this. It’s a safety measure in case 1. You either fat finger the tip screen and don’t realize it or 2. You write a $5 tip on your receipt and the waiter rings it up for $50. It probably triggers after 25 or 30% on a tip. Who cares?
I don’t really get a lot of people on this website. This is just a good faith, consumer friendly security check email and people will still read it and find a way to feel morally superior about it
A friend of mine got fucked by a local pizza place after the waitress changed a tip by adding a comma and a few zeros.
Pizza place refused to refund, credit card company wouldn't cancel the transaction because it was too large. We had to start a social media campaign to shame the place into refunding him. They turned a $15 tip into a $1,500 tip.
So I definitely appreciate stuff like this
Sounds like they need a new credit card company. Mine wouldn’t even hesitate to cancel the transaction because it’s so obvious at that point.
In about half of the states, that meets the threshold for a charge of felony theft. If they could count the full $1500 as a theft, (instead of $1485), it would qualify as felony theft in all but six states.
I don't know enough about the legal side to know if it could be pursued as theft though.
What credit card company? That seems like such blatant fraud.
Once my friend put total in place of tips. He was very drunk that day. He went over next day to talk to them and they obviously fixed it. That seems like common sense to me.
Tip cash.
If there is no mechanism to convey cash, the request for a tip is likely questionable.
I don't understand why credit cards are secured so badly in the states. Here you can't adjust a charge after it has been confirmed (plus you usually have to enter a pin whan swiping the card if the amount is over a certain threshold).
Kind of related: when my family went to the US for vacation and we ate at some restaurant, the waitress came with the bill, my dad said something like "make it $x". When she sait to just write in the tip on the bill and my dad told her that won't work she insisted that thats how it always works (which tbf it probably does for american customers). Sure enough when we checked the card statement later on they just took out the original amount, not the tip writen in.
Huh? There so so many protections with cards. All of my cards can very easily do a charge back and they’ll fight the charge with the retailer, not you. You only use a PIN for debit cards using a debit transaction because it’s a direct transfer, resulting in no card fees, very much the same as cash. No real credit cards have a PIN.
Edit: ah, I see they weren’t talking about American credit cards. My mistake! Interesting to learn that other countries do though.
Server here, usually with restaurant Point of Sale systems the transaction isn't sent to be processed by the financial institution until the ticket is closed out. (Presumably because tipping culture 🙄) I don't blame your server for not putting her tip on there, if you get caught without sufficient ass-covering (having the guest initial the tip field is what I usually did) that's a fireable offence.
I have always been very confused about whether the tip line on the receipt in the US works with my British cards given that I enter a PIN into a terminal that doesn't show that tip amount.
As of last year I'm pretty sure the tip is deducted from my card, but I don't think that has always been the case. I understand it works based on PIN-authenticated pre-authorisation for a higher amount and they later take your tip+bill from that pre-authorisation.
It doesn't seem very secure but the US always seems behind on card security.
When I first started travelling to the US for work restaurant staff were always extremely confused about why my card needed a PIN. They often tried again and again or said my card wouldn't go through, then worked out that it needed a PIN. Lots of places then had no way to hand you the terminal to enter it, like they would have to push aside mountains of junk to get the terminal out, or invite me round to the other side of the bar because it's literally screwed down.
- it’s just making sure an employee didn’t give themselves a big tip without your consent
- it’s nice of you to tips that much and that’s on you.
- I so disagree with the tip culture. Companies need to pay a living wage without requiring the generosity of customers to survive.
And the bank sends you this "warning" because they're just nice people and love you so, so much. Gee, I feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
imagine paying workers fairly so tips aren't needed.
Were you looking for a pat on the back for tipping 34% or something?
If you think the staff at CapitalOne are wouldn’t tip then you’re mistaken. They employ mainly poor folk in customer service roles, and we all know us poor folk are more likely to tip.
Anyway, you take issue with them ensuring you’re not robbed?
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Lotta people saying they're just looking out for you. Curious what the average APR is on a capital one credit card.
I actually think this is a nice feature, not really sure the argument of like "well Capital One isn't a great company anyway so it's not you they're looking after"
So because they're not a good company means that they shouldn't have good features? So should I not benefit from a feature that the bank/lender gives me?
I'm much happier that they're airing on the side of caution and asking me about it then just ignoring it and having me maybe miss it or find out months down the road. Worst case scenario? I get an extra email that I can ignore.
Butcher Block off Brighton near the old Pepsi factory?