The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane
The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane
Why are so many people ok with a world where you have no say in what your employer does, and they can do whatever they want to suit their bottom line?
Though I wonder how much of this is actually corpophilia and how much is people hiding behind it because they don't want to say "I'm glad these people I disagree with got fired".
Here are some threads to show what I'm talking about:
r/conservative (though this one feels like cheating)
etc..
There's a weird implicit conservancy in tech circles around the dictatorial nature of corporate leadership.
It stems from this weird externalization of corporate decision making that just turns everything that happens at large companies into the machinations of the unknowable machine of capital.
"Of course they were fired, they protested in a way that disrupted the business, if the business is disrupted the machine must correct itself, and it did so by releasing the corporate anti-bodies of leadership to fire the disruptive element. Thus the machine is corrected. This is all logically sound, and thus impervious to moral inquisition."
People who don't stand up for their beliefs are comforted by seeing those that did, punished. It's best for them personally if they're quite and obedient, and this is confirmation of that bias.
Hacker news is full of people LARPing as corporate crisis management officers, or counsels for the defense. Every post you get about "company caught grinding up babies to fuel forever-chemical cancer machine" will get a ton of posts by people arguing that actually it's a net positive for the world and how could anyone be against such amazing innovation?
They're neither crisis managers, nor counsels. The correct term is astroturfers. They all have some vested interests in doing so.
It's a fun coincidence to me that corpophilia is one transposition away from a literal scat fetish. They may as well be the same thing, honestly.
Democratize corporations.
I kinda made that word up lmao, it's not in the dictionary
first of all, you lost me when you pointed to reddit.
second, they protested not just within the office, but in the personal office of one of the higher-ups. If you blockaded your CTO's office as a means of protesting world hunger, I don't think that would go well for you either.
If my company was helping perpetuate world hunger and I blockaded their office, I hope to God you wouldn't be gleeful at me getting fired
Not gleeful - just fully understanding why.
I admire their principled stand. They had to know it would cost them their jobs but chose to do it anyway.
Their firing isn't a surprise and is fully reasonable by the company. I hope they get great jobs elsewhere, where their morals will be appreciated... But there are very few workplaces that give a damn about morals.
I hope to God you wouldn’t be gleeful at me getting fired
I wouldn't be "gleeful", but I can definitely see why the company was within their rights to fire you.
This is like those nutbags who shut down a highway to protest the environment or something, then accuse the police of being un-environmental when they're invariably arrested.
This is not at all like world hunger.
I still have zero regrets after walking away from my very very old reddit account. I torched everything I ever said, ground it into ash, stomped on it again, and then deleted my account. I still have my /. account though.
Those offices are usually locked down anyway, on floors where the unwashed masses aren't granted access. Hell, if you want to even be on a call with someone like the CTO you'll have to reach out to three different entities, book a specific room, and reach out to that person's team of assistants to ensure everything is aligned.
If they got access to the CTO office they definitely broke in, or evaded security in some way. That alone at any company will get you fired, and probably arrested.
Source: Once attended a meeting with a SVP at a big tech company. I genuinely think it would be easier to meet the president.
I assumed that once we accept we're being extorted (work for us or fail to survive) it's a short step to acknowledge we don't get a say in what the company does.
Instead we acknowledge we're occupied like Vichy Paris and spit in the boss' coffee.
All the big companies were pro-torture and pro-containment and pro-overthrowing South American democracies and pro-great depression poverty (at least, pro-Hoover doing nothing about it and blaming it on public laziness). Go far enough back, and they're pro-monarchy. The Heritage society is actively working for just that.
Will the annihilation of the Palestinian people be enough to get the global public to scream enough! and act to overthrow the ownership class? Will they, then tremble before communist revolution? I doubt it. Even as civil rights are rolled back in the US and five-eyes nations, we carry on.
Even as industry pollutes the climate until it is uninhabitable, we carry on...
...Until the hour we don't. But I don't know when that will be, whether in days or decades.
I agree with you. People are gleeful and smug about the firing. I'm proud of the people who stood up against a contract that will only bring death and destruction to the world and I am ashamed of those that smugly revel in their firing.
Yeah, I don't understand a place in the world where I fit that allows that kind of shitty behavior. I have a direct line to the founder of the place I work at. He gives a shit and listens when I give voice to a problem.
I completely support their right to protest, having attended many myself, as does the constitution. However, they were on the clock and on private property. They should have organized a protest outside, during off hours, if they wanted to protect their jobs. Circulating a petition wouldn’t have been a bad idea either.
Edit: OP shared this interview in a thread further down. It’s a first-hand account from a former employee. The employee stated that they were warned several times about pending arrest and violation of workplace behavior. I respect their commitment to their cause, but it was with full understanding that they were arrested and subsequently terminated.
I disagree, I think protesting during working hours is kind of the point, same as a union protest during working hours. It affects the corps bottom line, the only thing they care about.
I agree that it hurts the company more. Unfortunately, then they can legally terminate you for refusal to work. Even worse, you won’t even be eligible for unemployment after hearing.
It would be legally protected if they were protesting compensation or working conditions, or if they organized their concerns through a union representative.
Their company, their rules. A union protest is a work activity directly relating to their roles, relationships, and functions as employees, which a political protest is not.
Google can suffer the public consequences on their own, which may or may not affect their bottom line.
To be fair, if you read the interview with one of the workers, they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in. I don't they risked their jobs without reason.
they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in
So they were intentionally disruptive to their employer and you're upset they were fired? You think people should be able to show up, clock in and then protest their employer on company time on company property and face no repercussions?
Isn't that called "capitalism gone bad"? The principles of capitalism and that story about competitiveness is good but in a global economy where monopolies distort the market, by reflection you'll have bending of rules which thrives thanks to a political class that is driven not by ideals, but rather personal interests and ego. Those that have the poet will abuse it. I'm not surprised at all. What is worse is that peoples brains are becoming numb thanks to social media. We are not able to think for ourselves anymore.
Spend 10 mins on Blind, and you'll see that once anonymous, people tend to be far more right-wing than you'd like to think.
I think it's much more likely that right wing people are much more willing to voice their opinions when anonymous, that than anonymity makes people right wing. I think generally people on the left are more than happy to have people aware of their morality, but people on the right want to keep it quite that they're assholes.