Is it a reasonable expectation to check peoples profiles when commenting on their comments to ensure I am pronouning them correctly?
Is it a reasonable expectation to check peoples profiles when commenting on their comments to ensure I am pronouning them correctly?
Looks like my account was banned/restricted for the above interaction, have already sent the mods on world an email asking if they'd be willing to reverse that. Had an episode of psychosis a few months ago where I did say some offensive stuff, (understandably) got a 3 month ban on .lol for that, so could see my account having been flagged.
I uh, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect people to check others profiles to ensure we are correctly pronouning them… when making a throw away comment that is less than 10 words involving a ludicrously common saying. Jerboa does not show users pronouns. I could switch to an app that DOES show the pronouns, do any Lemmings have a recommendation for a free Lemmy mobile app that has that feature?
Edit: Edie chimed in, Jerboa does show pronouns. It's a formatting issue with mobile vs browser (She has them on individual text lines so they don't appear on mobile).
Was just going to respond to the user in question to let them know I wasn't purposefully trying to offend that individual, to discover I'm not able to post or make comments on world now, so figured I'd see what y'alls opinion on the matter is.
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Tbh honest when online gender is just a myth everyone is just a typing bot no one is actually whatever gender they think they are and stupidly everyone who judged you on those comments is either didn't know the whole point of the Fediverse or has forgotten, because one of the main reasons that founds the whole existence of this place is anonymity from companies earning money selling our data, the fediverse is an escape from the company greed therefore there's no he or she we're all equals here and it's valid to say " the man, the legend.. as it is to say way to go sis.. " as we're all just free anonymous accounts as should be and we need to delete the gender concept maybe starting with using gender neutral terms online until everyone's comfortable with the idea because to be banned or have your account deleted for misgendering another user is just crazy and defeats the whole fediverse concept.
This is an absolutely garbage take. "Anonymous" defaults to male in everyone's mind because patriarchy is the basis of our society. Claiming everyone should just be "Anonymous" is a male supremacist and exclusionary of everything else position to take.
Whoa there those are big words for an UFO sighting are you a conspiracy theorist or something? Lmao
So you basically threw away everything that I said and fixated on the only word you don't understand to attack with the only implanted knowledge you have that sits next to it in your brain folder lol
Your argument is for the people of the rainbow, my argument is for everyone all the same as I said before if you don't mind sharing all about yourself to everyone else then why would you mind the greedy corporations helping you out when selling your data it's all the same they be sharing the same data as you want to force share with everyone but just not sharing any profit with you because you too want your data to be shared anyway, on the other hand there are people who simply don't care wether you're a he, she or even it as long as you have your personal thoughts and interests that's all that matters and everyone is all the same online for us gender isn't all that makes up a person and therefore it isn't a big deal to innocently perfectly quote an old meme to someone from the different gender and get insulted and banned then because you didn't change the quote to fit their gender.
this is Lemmy after all not Reddit, why come here if you don't want privacy I started to have this thought that you're just on all social platforms to spread knowledge about your identity, pronouns and the gay people existence and only that, no matter where you are it's all the same for you "I only want everyone know that I'm not a he/him I'm a she/her I absolutely want nothing more from this place other than that " to be honest I wouldn't judge any instance owner to start helping you further spread knowledge about the rainbow people and make personal profit out of it by selling all of your data since you not just don't mind but also want everyone to acknowledge it, again this is not Reddit this is Lemmy, the first people who built this concept didn't think of making it just a social platform like all they made it a safe place away from personal greed where everyone is free to keep their privacy to their own with all the rights to be anonymous, you guys just came here and started forcing rules around forgetting the first concept build of this place, some instances 'added' the ability to have pronouns as a 'feature' not all instances have it or are able to see it so just don't forget this fact. And I have no problem acknowledging your existence I just have a problem with you forcing your "obvious pronouns so don't misgender me" rules forgetting the main reason that had this place to exist in the first place.
If you think I would read this shit after that first sentence you're a fucking idiot
You did the right thing. It's a lot of bullshit about "oh, you list your pronouns? You must be fine with corporations selling your data" and then at the end there seems to be a bit of "hexbear showed up late to the fediverse party and is ruining everything", which is, of course, pretty much directly opposite of the truth.
Hexbear existed 2 years before everything else? Fucking wild. This loser's account is literally 3 years younger than my hexbear account and 2.5 years younger than my Lemmy.ml one and he thinks we're the late ones?
The only "ruining" I'm doing here is ruining his bullshit fuckoff attempt to associate lgbt and gender with being a corporate thing, it's fucking nonsensical. Dude deserves to lose teeth.
As I've said else where in the thread, Hexbear has some high quality contributors, I'm glad y'all decided to federate.
Should I rearrange them paragraphs for you, would you love it more when you're being tricked into it? X'D
Eat my ass
Look bud, if you're gonna try and do transphobia to show us how trash you are, at least make it coherent.
I may be trash because I don't have the rainbow capacity to care but I never said to be or tried to do transphobia and I double dare you to show me where you got touched or maybe hurt :'( .
Dude I can smell the greasy hair through my screen
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Your parents failed in raising you
whatever dumbass point you're trying to get across isn't landing because you write in borderline incoherent run-on sentences
the fediverse isn't explicitly about privacy btw, it's about taking control from corporations who want to exploit us, and giving it to the community itself via decentralization. there's absolutely no expectation to be a tinfoil hat weirdo on here, and if you want to cultivate a community that isn't just a bunch of paranoid weirdos with nothing to talk about except opsec, then yes sharing (in this case the bare fucking minimum) about your identity is actually beneficial to, y'know, discussing things
Learn how to punctuate your fucking sentences.
I think you replied to the wrong account, this is a completely incoherent response
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Gender is an incredibly validating concept specifically for some trans people, to write it off is unhelpful.
I mean in my "very long" years of experience never seen in an anonymous ungoverned platform someone intentionally revealing any peace of personal information about themselves like in hacking platforms for example someone calling themselves "he who hacks" or "her majesty" or such where those are only simple usernames but yet reveal enough to minimize the search area and along with the comments data could trigger enough data to start and osint attack on the user and then eventually dox them..
if you're obligating everyone to acknowledge your personal data don't be nagging when companies be selling your data and making profit out of it since there are people who like Force feeding their informations onto others to be aware of, hell I won't even blame Lemmy instance owner to sell the users data by then.
I'll be talking about myself and the majority of users that immigrated to this social platform based on the idea that it's ungoverned, legally safe for all users and anonymous so when a user Calles someone bro or pal it's if not always meant as gender neutral same as in a random people calling you bro with the meaning of that he/she descending from your mom or dad, like yourself, the logic is the same and intentions were pure, plus with the culture of respecting everyone's right of privacy you'd learn to treat everyone as equal and the same, with the only difference is the mentality and ideas held by individuals not by gender as the only special treat to define a user.
Bad faith argument.
Listing your pronouns isn't force feeding anything to anyone. Observing someone's listed pronouns takes less effort than having this discussion.
Using they/them and gender neutral language is helpful as a general rule, but if someone is absolutely fucking waving a flag of their gender, its wilfully ignorant at best and intentionally malicious at worst to disregard it.
Or just quoting a P.T. Barnum as most people don't like changing quotes for whatever reason and using what is known to be a famous saying is definitely not "intentionally malicious" it's mostly the ignorant's fault for not getting the innocent joke, plus not all Lemmy mobile apps show stuff like flags and pronounces so maybe consider that as well on your side before dropping the death sentence..
Your argument was that everything should be gender neutralised. That has nothing to do with OP's very innocent usage of a quote.
When did I drop a death sentence? Deary me, I advocate for using someone's pronouns instead of applying they/them to everybody and you consider that a death sentence?
Not "should be" but sometimes everyday users would just quote and go without the extra effort of checking into everyone's profile before the already wasted effort of doing the comment then changing the quotes based to fit for everyone's gender perfectly so the easier solution is just considering everyone a catfish and just move on it's just a quote of a meme anyway for all that effort to waste
